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I just don't want another SUV with it's bouncy ride on Houston's potholes. I have a 2020 530e on order, whose 12 KWh battery and 21-24 mile EV range will serve about 90% of my local driving. And I'll have the ICE for inter-city. No data on what the 2021 LCI 5-series PHEV will have for a battery, yet. It's reportedly available with the 745e 6-cyl drivetrain, but if it still has the 12 KWh battery, I won't regret going a year early. |
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11-05-2019, 10:07 AM | #24 |
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I'll definitely go for one in future, maybe the iX3 (if it's affordable) but driving either PHEVS or full electric cars (and not wanting to upset our American Friends) won't make much difference unless Mr Trump and other major nations don't commit to carbon emission restrictions for their respective nations.
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11-06-2019, 09:21 AM | #26 | |
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With Ford Mach E, Polestar 2, BMW iX3 and iX4, etc., etc., about to launch, the choices from OEMs who actually have generations of experience designing and building whole vehicles will have a significant impact. Tesla does design high performing, high-efficiency electric powertrains (although we now read about failures with some particular chip writing so much data so often, they are now failing prematurely https://insideevs.com/news/376037/te...-memory-issue/ ), but they also need to learn how to design a competent vehicle around that powertrain.
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11-06-2019, 11:59 AM | #27 | ||
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Let me bring you up to reality... Tesla has two huge advantages over the rest of the slackers in the car industry. Tesla has the rest of the car industry beat by making their own batteries, and by their worldwide supercharger network.
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11-06-2019, 12:14 PM | #28 | |
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So-called slackers are in this for the long run and soon will provide an array of product choices based on far superior overall automotive knowledge and experience. Patience is well-advised for such an investment. Perhaps in 5-10 years, Tesla may figure out the rest of the equation beyond the battery and powertrain. For now, they offer novel, fast, efficient, exciting mediocrity.
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Tesla still has a major advantage in their batteries and supercharger network. If it wasn't for Tesla, the rest of the car industry wouldn't be doing much of anything. Now look at them all scrabbling to catch up... They're so far behind it's absolutely ridiculous.
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11-06-2019, 01:33 PM | #30 | |
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I think our prior conversation was about two different issues...the leading edge strategic move Elon made vs. the rest of the industry following from far behind (your point) and the quality of the first efforts for the as-built vehicles as a whole being understandably low for a first try, although there were several things even a beginner could have done better. (my point). Depending on your acceptance of the widespread and significant design and quality stumbles they experience, we may have no disagreement at all.
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My wife wants either the Polestar 2 or The Electric XC40. I'd never except a car with some of the issue Tesla cars currently have. However once they fix all the little things, they will dominate even more than they currently do.
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She's making good choices. I'm looking at iX3, i4, Polestar 2, or even the Mach-E, on the premise that Ford will be throwing everything they have at putting their best foot forward on their first EV. Some of this will depend on timing for next January when my current lease expires.
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Polestar 2 is the only car close enough under your time restrictions. Ask for a 3 month lease extension.
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I thought the iX3 was launching before the end of 2020. I think that would still be my first choice, which is why I've been joining in here.
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The Tesla Model Y might also be out around March. BMW has been slowing the release more than likely to get their battery supply all situated.
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Audi eTrons are popping up regularly in my neighborhood and they are full electrics with a 200+ mile range (not Hybrids). BMW's iX3 still seems to be 2 years away. BMW went from a leadership position to back of the pack in my mind. Rather than investing precious time and resources putting M badges on everything they make, they should be all out focusing on meeting the demand for electrics.
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I struggle with the reduction in boot capacity that the hybrid drivetrain brings. 450l is less than a 3 series saloon (sedan). I switched up to an X3 for the boot primarily.
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more info. 30e will be 4600 USD more than a 30i. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/12/31/...a_cCPtbDcwzwfS
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