2020 X3M / X4M Reviews Compilation Thread

535i MSport · 06-17-2019, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonven

Carwow review

"Not bad for an SUV". Kind of what you would expect.

Transfer · 06-17-2019, 03:20 PM

Carwow review is quite positive including suspension... from a Brit! Makes you wonder what happened to the Top Gear team.

535i MSport · 06-17-2019, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

Carwow review is quite positive including suspension... from a Brit! Makes you wonder what happened to the Top Gear team.

Better than Doug, that's for sure!

AD18 · 06-17-2019, 03:33 PM

What annoys me (and stopped me purchasing an F82) is that I like having the option to customise the throttle, suspension and steering. Somewhat comfortable for the commute and harder for back roads, sounds great. HOWEVER, what is the point when the suspension is too stiff even in comfort mode and the steering too heavy in comfort mode? It negates the purpose of it all.
I was really hoping they would sort this out in the newer generation of cars but it seems like nothing has changed. I expect the G80 will now be no different in these areas.

Mtxzptlk · 06-17-2019, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AD18

What annoys me (and stopped me purchasing an F82) is that I like having the option to customise the throttle, suspension and steering. Somewhat comfortable for the commute and harder for back roads, sounds great. HOWEVER, what is the point when the suspension is too stiff even in comfort mode and the steering too heavy in comfort mode? It negates the purpose of it all.
I was really hoping they would sort this out in the newer generation of cars but it seems like nothing has changed. I expect the G80 will now be no different in these areas.

Perhaps the X3M40i would be a better match for what you're looking for?

Fugly M3 · 06-17-2019, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 535i MSport

Really? That is disappointing. Possibly the only reason for getting one for some...

Yup...offered in the EU markets but not here!

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535i MSport · 06-17-2019, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AD18

What annoys me (and stopped me purchasing an F82) is that I like having the option to customise the throttle, suspension and steering. Somewhat comfortable for the commute and harder for back roads, sounds great. HOWEVER, what is the point when the suspension is too stiff even in comfort mode and the steering too heavy in comfort mode? It negates the purpose of it all.
I was really hoping they would sort this out in the newer generation of cars but it seems like nothing has changed. I expect the G80 will now be no different in these areas.

I know everyone is different, but I actually find the M3C pretty comfortable in err, comfort mode and so does SWMBO. I like a car to feel a bit sporty, but for me it's "Goldilocks".

f82fanatic · 06-17-2019, 04:30 PM

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Drove the car at an M Event in Miami this weekend. I echo some of the comments. Lots of lag when accelerating and a strong feeling of detachment vis-à-vis steering and acceleration. I left disappointed in general, expected the car to generate a feeling, that je ne sais quoi that an M3/M4 gives you, but it wasn't there. The X5M does a much better job weighing a lot more.

Not sure how a SUV can feel like an M3/4 with the extra weight and higher centre of gravity.

Just avoid the SUV and get the new M3/4...

The main issues were steering and acceleration. I didn't expect it to feel just like an M3/M4, but at least closer to it.

My expectations were rightly set in my opinion. The X3M underperformed them. Especially the lag when accelerating at low revs. It was really noticeable.

SSM5 · 06-17-2019, 04:32 PM

I drove the X3M Competition at the M Town Tour. Really rough ride, you will feel everything on the road. I checked the tire pressure and it was correct. Also the transmission was slow to react on kick downs.

Bomex · 06-17-2019, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 535i MSport

"Not bad for an SUV". Kind of what you would expect.

Does anyone know what 0-60 App he is using?

tkila · 06-17-2019, 05:22 PM

I expected so much of this and they can't get one thing right: involvement. Shame. The M40i wasn't that great to drive either and I guess this was expected. Feel like this just tuned M40i opposed to a real M product.

I drove the Macan before, and did not like it.

So my choices for sporty SUV's are F-Pace SVR or the Stelvio Q

SVR has less performance but it will definitely bring more smiles.

535i MSport · 06-17-2019, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by f82fanatic

Drove the car at an M Event in Miami this weekend. I echo some of the comments. Lots of lag when accelerating and a strong feeling of detachment vis-à-vis steering and acceleration. I left disappointed in general, expected the car to generate a feeling, that je ne sais quoi that an M3/M4 gives you, but it wasn't there. The X5M does a much better job weighing a lot more.

Not sure how a SUV can feel like an M3/4 with the extra weight and higher centre of gravity.

Just avoid the SUV and get the new M3/4...

The main issues were steering and acceleration. I didn't expect it to feel just like an M3/M4, but at least closer to it.

My expectations were rightly set in my opinion. The X3M underperformed them. Especially the lag when accelerating at low revs. It was really noticeable.

How did the lag compare to the current M3/4?

They have less torque, but also a lot less weight so will be easier to accelerate for a given throttle opening.

paikman · 06-17-2019, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cntzl

If you think this sounds better than S55, you must have never heard an M3/M4 Comp. This (@11:52) sounds exactly like S55:

I'm confused by all the positive media takes (and now trickling down to people taking their word as bond) on the exhaust sound as well.
It literally sounds like my M3CS in sports+, and the general populace and media HATE the s55 lol

allen3ybq · 06-17-2019, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWModel3

Waiting for the only review that matters: Doug Demuro's

He needs "ITS TIME FOR THE DOUGS RACE TRACK TIME!"

4everkidd · 06-17-2019, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmm_22

I drove the X3M at a dealership during the M Tour last week, had it for a little over 45 minutes and took it on windy roads and a little on the highway. I did not like the exhaust as it sounds a lot like the S55. Ride quality wasn't too bad, but I'm used to the M2 as my daily driver.

I think it falls short of the Macan GTS/Turbo and Giulia Quadrofoglio in terms of speed/acceleration and handling.

Left disappointed, as I was looking at this for my girlfriend.

So your girlfriend wears the and drives the pants in the relationship?

allen3ybq · 06-17-2019, 06:39 PM

Test drove one at the M town event. A few things I don't like from M40i owner:

1. Need the newest idrive system
2. Gear paddles are too close to the steering wheel just like the M40i
3. Doesn't feel brutally fast

cipher5 · 06-17-2019, 07:21 PM

Can't wait to retrofit that steering wheel to my X3 M40i

gtenedio · 06-17-2019, 07:27 PM

not lookin promising compared to stelvio quad.
having driven the stelvio- its truly a drivers suv. MMI alone is deal-breaking though.

gtenedio · 06-17-2019, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cipher5

Can't wait to retrofit that steering wheel to my X3 M40i

GGG333 · 06-17-2019, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AD18

What annoys me (and stopped me purchasing an F82) is that I like having the option to customise the throttle, suspension and steering. Somewhat comfortable for the commute and harder for back roads, sounds great. HOWEVER, what is the point when the suspension is too stiff even in comfort mode and the steering too heavy in comfort mode? It negates the purpose of it all.
I was really hoping they would sort this out in the newer generation of cars but it seems like nothing has changed. I expect the G80 will now be no different in these areas.

I don't know which F8X you've driven but my 18' ZCP is a Lexus on comfort.
I literally cannot leave the garage without sports + everything before I drive off.

DETSGTSTARSKY · 06-17-2019, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

Only real complaint from most seems to be a stiff ride even in comfort.

If people want mush, they should go buy a lexus!

BobsM3Coupe · 06-17-2019, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GuyOh

I've noticed it's usually the british car journalists that always complain about the ride being stiff.

That's because most of their secondary roads are beat up horse trails with globs of asphalt thrown on top.

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tkila Private First Class 39 Rep 104 Posts Drives: 2022 BMW M5 CS Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	I expected so much of this and they can't get one thing right: involvement. Shame. The M40i wasn't that great to drive either and I guess this was expected. Feel like this just tuned M40i opposed to a real M product. I drove the Macan before, and did not like it. So my choices for sporty SUV's are F-Pace SVR or the Stelvio Q SVR has less performance but it will definitely bring more smiles.
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