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Jaguar F Pace SVR Builder online
You can now build the F Pace SVR on their website, I was surprised with how much comes standard, my build would be under $85,000.
they are showing weight at 4395 lbs and that's with a huge V8. by comparison the GLC weighs 4517 lbs, Porsche Macan Turbo 4488 lbs, Stelvio Quad with V6 4340 lbs. So congrats to Jaguar on keeping the weight down!!! without knowing the weight and power of the upcoming X3M the Jaguar is now the leader in lbs/HP at 7.99 (lower than the M3/M4). This thing should be a rocket and I am assuming Jaguars 4.1 second 0-60 claim is conservative (maybe that's the street start 5-60 time). I would guess it has to at least match the Stelvio and Mercedes 3.3 second times that Car and Driver reported. Also note with the price, its almost exactly the same as the Alfa, but undercuts the GLC with similar options by around $7,000 and the Macan Turbo by $14,000 while offering more cargo space than all of them. Will be interesting to see the skidpad and braking results. |
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Thanks for the update on the SVR, Mako. My build came in at $89,570.
The Wt/HP ratio is indeed impressive at 7.99, which is now 3rd (behind the Urus' 7.57 and the Trackhawk's 7.59. And I agree the 0-60 time is surely less than 4.1 sec. I would think somewhere in the 3.7-3.8 sec range at a minimum (looking at the chart in post #15 at https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1444613 ). And it is now solidly in second place in the P-SAVIE (the global Performance-SAV Index Enhanced), thanks in part to the excellent cargo volume it continues to offer. P-SAVIE= Wt/HP x (0-60 time) x Cd x A div by Cargo Vol Although some may cross-shop it with the Stelvio and GLC, for what it offers in cargo vol (only abt 4 cu ft less than both of those combined), this flexibility in the 'utility' category is rivaled really only by the Jeep, X5M, Range Rover, and roughly similar X3. It seems a formidable adversary for the X3M, depending of course on it's handling, reliability, and infotainment abilities. But from a pure power standpoint it should be firmly planted on BMW's radar (and this doesn't include the proposed Lister Lightning variant at 666HP). |
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I have been a BMW guy for a LONG time, briefly owning a Mazda Speed 6 (when I was younger) and Mercedes C63. The infotainment from BMW is just amazing compared to most brands and when you are still paying around $1500-$2000 for that it better be! Even more so now that so much of the cars tech is held within that system. I heard from a friend that the Alfa is HORRIBLE with its infotainment but they love the styling of the car and it drives great, they also said interior is a bit lacking (they don't have the Quad but only the seats are upgraded in the Quad). My fear with the Jaguar is the infotainment, as the interior looks very nice in the pictures (despite some reviews saying the normal F Pace is lacking there as well). The X3 M40i has rave reviews for handling, interior, infotainment... I really hope the X3M brings it to compete with these 500HP+ V8s. If BMW says 450HP and around the same torque that could very easily be in the 500HP/torque range on a Dyno, the M3 was 425 and Dynos showed 475... I wonder if BMW can keep it under 4350 lbs though (M40i is 4308). BMW also needs some better seat options, every other manufacturer is offering standard two tone seats and contrast stitching (colors, not just white), while BMW has been lacking with that unless you go individual. Last edited by Mako; 08-03-2018 at 11:32 AM.. |
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It's funny because Dinan just released the only upgrade they'll have for the X3 M40i and on the Dyno they discovered that the hp/torque was the most underrated by a manufacturer that they'd seen. The BMW numbers are closer to wheel hp/torque than crank. Not sure why that came out that way, maybe they did it to set up for the X3M not having too much higher a number? Not sure. They got 445hp and 440 torque at the crank stock. They were able to add 40hp/torque to the crank, 30 at the wheel with the stage one tune.
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SVR Video from Jul 2018
Jaguar's YouTube video posted last month:
Would hope BMW will release the X3M with min 500 HP as this segment continues to see the performance bar being raised. |
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On paper and in these early videos the SVR looks to be a serious competitor to the X3M.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=CeMbKpUJkGY Last edited by Max Well; 01-05-2019 at 04:12 PM.. Reason: Video spacing |
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IMO, probably the best looking SAV on the market right now. My build priced around $91K USD and may ultimately prove difficult to beat overall. X3M will most likely be @$10K less. Hope BMW brings it. I want a more aggressive exterior and 500HP. Let's see if the F-Pace SVR will be worth the additional $10K. The size of this monster easily makes it the X3M's number one competitor.
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For those still confused about what the Performance SUV/SAV field is all about, there is the pending Lister Lightning stirring up the mix even more: https://lister.com/blog/lister-worlds-fastest-suv |
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BMW has had a good head start on the Stelvio QV, GLC AMG 63(S) and even the new incoming Macan Turbo (estimated at @460HP). No idea if there will be a PP version approaching the 500HP mark. X3M ZCP should be faster / on par with these. IMO, better tech and the ability to haul more is already a given. The Lister LFP is approaching the realm of the Lamborghini Urus (@$200K-$250K) and at that price point, I don't see how BMW could compete. No way the 0-60 MPH mark on the SVR and LFP are at 4.1s and 3.5s respectively. Would be interesting to see if you could calculate their 0-60 MPH and top speed.
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The X3/4 will be (should be) the Flagships for BMW's M-SUV platforms - hopefully they will hit their marks. Last edited by Max Well; 01-08-2019 at 05:20 PM.. Reason: Left out 'hit' in final sentence. |
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