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Well, that's just a matter of opinion, and that's fine.
I always stay objective. Personally I don't like any of the Range Rovers. I have testdriven one and hated it. I don't see much difference between an X3 with S-drive and the new Espace. They are both crossovers with good handling, modern design and powerful engines, and they are both useless off-road....
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I've looked at swapping my X3 for an Evoque a few times, came close enough to place an order 2 months ago. But the power bothers me with a 2.0d, and also the quality of the leather in the RRE. It just looks shite. I've seen showroom cars that look like aged minicabs. With regards the Disco, well the DS is more Land Rover than Range Rover, so it will feel probably feel more plastic fantastic than it's RRE sister. I was put of by comments in the trade press of it feeling a little too agricultural. I'm sure it will sell well, but i like the punch of a 3.0d so i doubt i'd entertain one. I'm also sure i read somewhere that a full fat Disco would be added to the line up in 2016. It's not the only model, just the start. |
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Like I said comparing Apples to Pears. Anyway, this thread is all about the Discovery Sport. End of discussion.
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02-04-2015, 11:30 AM | #26 |
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what's the difference than between a crossover and a suv or sav ? I don't see it.
They have both an elevated driving position, have a hatchback door , both have more groundclearance , lots of space, look cool..... so what makes a car a suv / sav and what makes a car a crossover ?
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But..... no they're not. The D4 is being replaced next year with a bigger version of the DS. They will retain the two sizes with the DS replacing the FL2 and the new Discovery 5(?) will replace the D4. Vision Concept which hints at the D5, obviously very similar to the DS:
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Land Rovers and Renaults? Hope you like the machine vend coffee they serve in their repair shops because you'll be drinking lots of it.
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Yes..agreed! Putting people into groups. According to pundits people are selling their Saloons (Sedans) and moving to SUVs.
The new Espace is not going to be made in Right Hand Drive, so will not be sold in the UK. Land Rovers in particular. Not sure about Renault. My daughter had a little Twingo in 2013 and it never missed a beat. There is not much to go wrong with a car as small.
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And I don't know about Land Rover / Range Rover.
But I have a Renault Koleos 4x4 now, bought it in 2010 and I did 120.000 km with it. I NEVER had to bring it to my dealer for anything else than regular service. Also, Renault offers a 5 year warranty ! On my new ordered X3 I only get a 2 years warranty...... I expect that my new X3 will be just as reliable as my Renault. We'll see.....
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Quite like this
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Similar to what I have on order
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As opposed to the Discovery Sport continuing the long tradition of FWD Land Rovers!
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Thought the Disco Sport looked good before release, but it's already looking as dated as the Evoque already, same with the RR Sport, the main RR Vogue looks very classic and less Evoque like, RR is overplaying the Evoque design too much on most of its models.
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Finally got to sit in one, (HSE) talk about creaky CHP everywhere, don't get me started on the 3rd row what a joke. Sat in a RR sport right after, that's uxurious and the level the DS should have gone for, even Evoque is more nicely done. So next is a test drive. Looking to replace my 7 year old Forester will see if this will be on the list.
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