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Wife went from 545I to 550I and loved them! Drove a 2018 X3 30 M and loved the look and ease of entry in the SAV. SA and I were sorprised that she was happy with 4 cylinders.
She put 30K on it then drove X3 40 and realized what she was missing. We picked new one up 1/13 at PCD. Gas milage was 27 mpg vs 31 mpg. We have 6,000 ft mountain road heading to Jerome and the 40 doesn't even know its there!!!!!
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having a larger motor, provides far more torque at a lower rev range... this makes the car FAR more comfortable to drive daily without having to rev it... that's not to say the 4 lacks but the 4 definitely needs to be revved far more to achieve similar results... this hurts MPGs and just becomes annoying everyone always thinks its about acceleration and speed but there are other intrinsic factors at play here... the is why ironically the mixed mpg rating on these cars is only 3 MPG different
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Unless you're into street racing and competing to see who gets to the next traffic light first, the 2.0-litre, twin-turbo engine is enough for 99 percent of your daily tasks. The engine is very balanced in my opinion. In any case, more than half of the cars on the roads will be much slower than even a BMW with a weak engine.
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That's not really how automotive production works. For all intents and purposes cars with same specs are indistinguishable from each other by a human. Their performance will all be within a couple percent at absolute most from each other. Any more deviation than that would be indicative of an out-of-control process somewhere upstream of the engine test. Quote:
I do really like that about my B58. It's smoother driving a more powerful engine at the same speed as a less powerful one. Coming off a stop light, maybe a 30i is using 25% throttle while I can putt around at like 15% with less "drama". Having said that, 3 mpg is over 10% improvement on these cars. That does add up, but it's definitely not as bad as it used to be where the performance engine option would cost you far more. Another point to mention, and it's kind of unknown, but the B58 will probably hold value a little better. So the cost difference in the end likely won't be as great as the purchase price difference.
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vs those cars... a 30i may feel like a Porsche 911 Turbo lmao
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now if one where to take a hemi v8 jeep GC that does like 16 mpg and is still not much faster than the v6 version... thats a different ball game, that just prehistoric tech
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To be honest, most of the cars on the road are not very fast cars, pickup trucks that have a speed of 8-10 seconds. Against their background, the X3 with a 2 liter engine is just a rocket))
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People are getting silly now, comparing a 30i X3 to a minivan ??? Like I said before, because of family size I’ve had to own a couple of minivans. I must have missed out , because neither of them even came close to comparing to the ride or speed of the X3 . Really ?
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The 30i would've been adequate, but the purpose of the X3 personally was a 2nd car that was more entertaining. If you try to rationalize it, the M40i (or the performance trim of any car for that matter) makes no sense. I WFH and generally drive pretty conservatively, but the sound, power, and handling make the B58 premium well worth it on open roads and on ramps. Granted I bought mine used so the premium was a bit smaller than buying new. |
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I just read the links to the Car and Driver posted above and they are posted wrong . The 30i was 6.2 and the Odyssey was 6.5 . I thought the OP asked if the 40i was that much faster then the 30i? The X3 Comp would be faster then the M40i too . How did we get here ?? What’s all of the bashing about Bimmer Brothers ??
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in that test, the odyssey outperforms the x30i... its not bashing, its a real world performance discussion... also, the X3 M40i hits the middle ground and is actually faster off the line due to smaller turbos that spool up quicker than the X3Ms mighty S58 turbo... lot of real world roll races prove this... now, once we are over say 40-50 MPH... the X3M will absolutely run away and I wouldn't be able to see its tailights as it has another 12 MPH at the end of the 1/4 mile
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the irony is that Honda's NA 3.5L V6 which is effectively stone age tech - the J series V6 has been made since 1996 just in slightly different versions... but ultimately it's the same engine (most people don't know this)... and somehow it's faster 5-60 than BMWs B48 4 Cylinder which has been made since 2014 and is extremely modern... both engines output similar power but in theory the B48 should have torque far lower due to small turbos hence be far faster but in real world tests, it appears the 5-60 is slightly better on the Honda
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