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      06-26-2017, 12:23 PM   #71
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I find it hard to believe lane change assist and dynamic cruise are standard. I can kind of see the other technologies because they can use a relatively inexpensive stereo-optical setup though.
You can look more into it but here's the gist. They come standard on most, if not all, Toyota and Lexus vehicles. Auto high beam standard where as BMW charges you $500 for something that should be standard on a $55k base price vehicle...

But BMWs have improved driving dynamics that you can not get on the cars you are comparing features with
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I find it hard to believe lane change assist and dynamic cruise are standard. I can kind of see the other technologies because they can use a relatively inexpensive stereo-optical setup though.
So you asked the question first implying no one else has them and when corrected you say hard to believe...

It's always been like that a comparable Lexus has more options already included than a BMW. For a German brand a lot of options are extras.
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I find it hard to believe lane change assist and dynamic cruise are standard. I can kind of see the other technologies because they can use a relatively inexpensive stereo-optical setup though.
You can look more into it but here's the gist. They come standard on most, if not all, Toyota and Lexus vehicles. Auto high beam standard where as BMW charges you $500 for something that should be standard on a $55k base price vehicle...

But BMWs have improved driving dynamics that you can not get on the cars you are comparing features with
BMW isn't what it used to be in terms of driving dynamics. Perhaps the new models are better. That aside, most people nowadays want a comfortable vehicle rather than a sportier one, especially if it's a family hauler. With that said, Audi, a German brand, offers similar standard options (called pre-sense). They also have leather as standard while BMW charges for everything. Been a BMW fan for almost 20 years now and I'm starting to see why more and more people are moving to other brands.
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