[aaccon]

Hi

I have a 2012 X3 F25 2.0d MSport...

Great car, enough performance for me and I love the ride height and coming from an Msport LCI E90, which was also a great car don't have to worry about scraping the bottom of the car...BUT

Since purchase I have had paint defects, trim defects and now the high gloss window trims are coming apart from the door and the chrome is peeling off from circles around the Tachometer and Speedo under the clear cover on the Instrument Cluster.

I'm beginning to think the build and parts quality of these F25's is poor and for an 80K vehicle I would expect better..

Have any other F25 drivers had similar issues ?? .... I have emailed dealer with pictures and am awaiting a response. I find the dealer is never able to approve any repairs, they always seem to have to wait until the BMW rep comes to the dealership before any Warranty problems are looked into.

Cheers..

[Booty]

Did you buy new? Could you possibly reject the car? Sorry to hear your news.

[RSchneider]

Quality management is questionable; no news here. In the BMW lineup the X3 is a USD40k+ car, even if in a lot of countries it's sold for more than twice that. What we see is a race to the price-bottom at the third tier subsuppliers and it's very clear that quality is the factor that suffers.

[twerle]

I have a 2007 335xi with all the options...
Every time that I drive a X3 I cannot stop notice how the X3 build quality is inferior to my car
Beginning with the doors, the sound on the X3 is bahhh, on my car look like u just close a big vault, nice and strong.
Smells different as well, when u enter on a X3 that was built in the us then a 5 series that was built in Germany.

Americans are good on making money and fast!

Germans they are proud of what they do and they want to get it right on every single detail.

That is my personal opinion

[gareth3685]

Originally Posted by twerle

I have a 2007 335xi with all the options...
Every time that I drive a X3 I cannot stop notice how the X3 build quality is inferior to my car
Beginning with the doors, the sound on the X3 is bahhh, on my car look like u just close a big vault, nice and strong.
Smells different as well, when u enter on a X3 that was built in the us then a 5 series that was built in Germany.

Americans are good on making money and fast!

Germans they are proud of what they do and they want to get it right on every single detail.

That is my personal opinion

I'm not sure you can blame the American's for the X3, after all they are just bolting the thing together.

With sub-standard parts it doesn't really matter who or where its put together, the end product will still suffer as a result.

[halfalife]

Mines great. 😃

[xDrive35i]

Originally Posted by halfalife

Mines great. 😃

So is mine. Doesn't mean it's not built like shit.

[philtrick123]

I'm generally happy with my build quality. There are some cost savings- the most noticable being the boot (trunk) door trim- cheap plastic and it sounds it as you close it.
I recently had a quick drive in my father-in-laws Jaguar XF (similar price to the X3 30d). The leather dash top on the XF speaks quality, along with the pop up gear selector and air vents.

I don't expect any great changes in quality. BMW have to keep the X3 sandwiched between the poor quality X1 and the upcoming X5.

[Jiyar]

Keep in mind the whole quality is the engine

[gareth3685]

Originally Posted by Jiyar

Keep in mind the whole quality is the engine

And what about the other 80% of the car?

[Humbug]

I have to say that I'm not overly impressed by my X3 compared to my Skoda Octavia which was not much more than half the price.

I have the car booked to go in to the dealers next week for the following.

Corroded earth strap on rear tailgate



Squeak coming from behind steering wheel - sounds like trim rubbing.

Corrosion on most of the badges including the rear BMW roundel (on the "W")



On all four wheel centres (around the edge)



And both X-Drive badges (on the "R" and the "E")



I also have a fault with the i-drive giving me a warning about the window anti-trap when there is nothing wrong with the anti-trap (confirmed by dealer).

And the drivers seat leather on my 24,000 mile car looks to be in the same condition as the seat in my Skoda was after 135,000! So I don't want to think about what the X3 seat will look like if it gets to that milage.

OK, rant over!

[buze]

Could it be the lurvely sea air around your island causing all that corrosion?

[kozzi]

Originally Posted by twerle

I have a 2007 335xi with all the options...
Every time that I drive a X3 I cannot stop notice how the X3 build quality is inferior to my car
Beginning with the doors, the sound on the X3 is bahhh, on my car look like u just close a big vault, nice and strong.
Smells different as well, when u enter on a X3 that was built in the us then a 5 series that was built in Germany.

Americans are good on making money and fast!

Germans they are proud of what they do and they want to get it right on every single detail.

That is my personal opinion

Are you confusing the F25 with the E83?
Are you comparing the interior build quality of a 5 series to an X3?
Did you have a control for the "smell test"?
Did you forget to shower before entering the X3?

We Americans suck at everything we do...old news

BTW...your post gave me a chuckle...I read it in my best thick German accent. Nice and strong. I encourage everyone to do the same! Thanks for the entertainment

[Humbug]

Originally Posted by buze

Could it be the lurvely sea air around your island causing all that corrosion?

Well, I'll admit that the car lives outside and there can be a lot of salt in the air but on the other hand we don't get the roads salted in winter. leo, strange that the bonnet roundel is fine as is the "X3" on the tailgate but all of the others have suffered. If it was just the salt air I would expect them all to be the same.

[terrytnt]

I've had my 2012 X3 MSport for just over 1 year and it's beautiful. Of course I wash it weekly and keep it polished