N20 Under-Rated? - XBimmers

Teemo Panda · 09-28-2012, 08:09 AM

I recently watched the head2head on the f30 vs the Ats, I was wondering why that guy said that the n20 was underrated and BMW loves to make up numbers, just to make the n55 owners feel better.
I did my research on various sites, it said that the n20 produces 270hp and 280tq at the crank.

It kinda make sense that the n20 is just 0.5 secs shy away from the n55.

What do you guys think?

n55x3 · 09-28-2012, 10:08 AM

BMW is definitely known for under rating their motors. I think that applies to both the N20 and the N55 among others.

Tipsy McStagger · 09-28-2012, 11:01 AM

Yep. 300hp/300tq is just a nice round number. The n55 seems to be just barely less underrated than the n54.

fwiw, the F30 335i is ~.9s faster to 60 than the F30 328i.

X3 35i is ~1.1s faster to 60 than the 28i with the n20.

sivakumarbalu · 10-01-2012, 02:27 PM

as per BMW, the 0-60 times are

X3 35i with N55 - 5.4 secs
X3 28i with N52T - 6.7 secs
X3 28i with N20 - 6.5 secs

X1 28i with N20 - 6.3 secs
X1 35i with N55 - 5.1 secs

gator4life108 · 10-01-2012, 02:51 PM

Burger Tuning already has a stage 1 tune for the n20 out. Apparently they got the 328i under 5 seconds and it works for the X1. Emailed Terry and he said it should be very compatible with the X3 although they haven't gotten their hands on one yet. With the tune I think we could easily see the n20 X3 6 seconds or less.

Midwest X6 · 10-01-2012, 09:55 PM

I love my N20 so far....Nice and smooth, great torque for ed driving..Not as visceral as the S65 (M3) by any stretch, not as fast as N55 - but meets my needs beautifully in the x3. It's a marvelous little gem of a motor imo.

I will say the N20 is a bad pairing with the 5 series..Had a 528xi with N20 for a weekend, and it was quite "lazy" for lack of a better word..5'er just too heavy for the 4 pot.

Teemo Panda · 10-02-2012, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gator4life108

Burger Tuning already has a stage 1 tune for the n20 out. Apparently they got the 328i under 5 seconds and it works for the X1. Emailed Terry and he said it should be very compatible with the X3 although they haven't gotten their hands on one yet. With the tune I think we could easily see the n20 X3 6 seconds or less.

thats awesome !!!
i also heard that it cost around 1,599 USD on their site.
i think i may wait for Dinnan to come out with one, just for the warranty sake.

PAMidge · 10-03-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Midwest X6

I love my N20 so far....Nice and smooth, great torque for ed driving..Not as visceral as the S65 (M3) by any stretch, not as fast as N55 - but meets my needs beautifully in the x3. It's a marvelous little gem of a motor imo.

I will say the N20 is a bad pairing with the 5 series..Had a 528xi with N20 for a weekend, and it was quite "lazy" for lack of a better word..5'er just too heavy for the 4 pot.

Best assessment of the n20 on the forum!

Midwest X6 · 10-03-2012, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PAMidge

Best assessment of the n20 on the forum!

Well, the sentiments are appreciated, but I don't know about the "best assessment" praise

I will just reiterate that I am most impressed by the smoothness and low end torque of this motor...The IL6 was the queen of smooth - but the N20 approaches that smoothness in only it's first generation!

The counter-balancing and some of the other techniques BMW employed have made the N20 (at least) the equal of the VW/Audi 4 pots - which have had more time to evolve to boot.

The 4 banger technology and ultimately the motor itself will continue to improve - for that we can be certain. Tip of the cap to BMW for a great, great first offering.

The only area where I think they can improve, is not the motor - but the exhaust. The motor sounds like a little diesel. I personally find it endearing (I didn't buy it for a v8 roar) but I can see where others might like more of a growl note (ala 335)

Humble_Bear · 10-04-2012, 12:27 AM

Does it have timing belt or chain?

gator4life108 · 10-04-2012, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Teemo Panda

thats awesome !!!
i also heard that it cost around 1,599 USD on their site.
i think i may wait for Dinnan to come out with one, just for the warranty sake.

Burger Tune is only $399. You are thinking of another company.

http://burgertuning.com/N20_BMW_performance_Tuner.html

groovyone789 · 03-27-2013, 11:31 PM

has anyone gone ahead with the Burger tune on the N20? Seems too good to be true for only $380.

Teemo Panda · 03-28-2013, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by groovyone789

has anyone gone ahead with the Burger tune on the N20? Seems too good to be true for only $380.

A lot of people in the f30 section already does this.

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09-28-2012, 10:08 AM	#2
n55x3 Lieutenant Drives: n55 x3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: us Posts: 411 iTrader: (0)	BMW is definitely known for under rating their motors. I think that applies to both the N20 and the N55 among others.

09-28-2012, 11:01 AM	#3
Tipsy McStagger New Member Drives: 2013 X3 35i Msport AW Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 16 iTrader: (0)	Yep. 300hp/300tq is just a nice round number. The n55 seems to be just barely less underrated than the n54. fwiw, the F30 335i is ~.9s faster to 60 than the F30 328i. X3 35i is ~1.1s faster to 60 than the 28i with the n20.

10-01-2012, 02:27 PM	#4
sivakumarbalu Private First Class Drives: 2012 F25 N52T Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 118 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 BMW X3 xDrive28i [0.00]	as per BMW, the 0-60 times are X3 35i with N55 - 5.4 secs X3 28i with N52T - 6.7 secs X3 28i with N20 - 6.5 secs X1 28i with N20 - 6.3 secs X1 35i with N55 - 5.1 secs

10-01-2012, 02:51 PM	#5
gator4life108 Enlisted Member Drives: X3 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 38 iTrader: (0)	Burger Tuning already has a stage 1 tune for the n20 out. Apparently they got the 328i under 5 seconds and it works for the X1. Emailed Terry and he said it should be very compatible with the X3 although they haven't gotten their hands on one yet. With the tune I think we could easily see the n20 X3 6 seconds or less.

10-04-2012, 12:27 AM	#10
Humble_Bear Private Drives: 01 530i,10 Golf,11 Sorento V6 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: LA Posts: 94 iTrader: (0)	Does it have timing belt or chain?

03-27-2013, 11:31 PM	#12
groovyone789 New Member Drives: 2013 BMW X3 28i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 15 iTrader: (0)	has anyone gone ahead with the Burger tune on the N20? Seems too good to be true for only $380.