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      03-29-2012, 04:53 PM   #1
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Off to see the new 991

911 Carrera...unveiling at our dealership and test drive and reception. There's no way in h*** they're going to talk me into a sale (haven't got that kind of coyne).
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Looks GREAT in person....honestly the best looking 911 since the 993 IMO. The interior finally matches the price tag as well.
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Nice, I went and checked them out a couple weeks ago they only had PDK or I would have gone for a drive.

It looks good, report back!
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It's so bizarre, 142k for just a Carrera S? Sat in the 997 Turbo S, lifted the hood, etc., 179k, and somehow I liked the 991 better? They moved the motor 3" forward from what I heard.

Lots of car enthusiasts, no poseurs there LOL An older gentleman said not to brag but I've owned 5 Porsches, 2 were purchased new. He said in his opinion, a 4-5 y.o. with low miles is in the sweet spot. Me and my buddy who has an '08 550i were strategizing on how we can make that leap. Obviously a Porsche is not a daily driver, that's where it becomes "ok" to have a beater
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I find those designations confusing. I've heard a GT3 RS is "the" kick a** track car, although a GT2 has more power? can't help but even feel from the interior, those cars are for men. BMWs are also for men, who don't have enough money LOL
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For $142k I would probably look into something else. $100k is the most I'd pay for any Porsche if I had the money (this includes a CPO)
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I find those designations confusing. I've heard a GT3 RS is "the" kick a** track car, although a GT2 has more power? can't help but even feel from the interior, those cars are for men. BMWs are also for men, who don't have enough money LOL
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Nice ride... saw one a week ago... definitely can't fathom the 120K price that I saw for a Carrera S... not thanks.
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For $142k I would probably look into something else. $100k is the most I'd pay for any Porsche if I had the money (this includes a CPO)
142 is weird for "just" a Carrera S, I mean not 4S, not turbo, not targa, not cabrio, just plain Carrera S. And we thought 57k was a lot for a 335i coupe. As our dollar weakens, the world doesn't smile along with us...
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Price is off for that Carrera S. Sorry.
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Price is off for that Carrera S. Sorry.
It was optioned out to 142k, new 991 Carrera S. Not a misprint, not a joke. The 997 Turbo S that we fired up was 179k. On the 142k Carrera S, it said property of PCNA, NOT FOR SALE.

Too bad I can't somehow wager with you through paypal. All you have to do is find out which dealership the tour goes to in your area. I have a pic of the back of it and it has a GA license plate, so no worries on verifiying the car. Bet you $12k. That way I would only have to come up with another 130k for that particular car.

There was another black one that was 104k. Just imagine with the Porsche options, two cars can be 38k different. I don't think there's any BMW that has that much in optioning....
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It's so bizarre, 142k for just a Carrera S? Sat in the 997 Turbo S, lifted the hood, etc., 179k, and somehow I liked the 991 better? They moved the motor 3" forward from what I heard.

Lots of car enthusiasts, no poseurs there LOL An older gentleman said not to brag but I've owned 5 Porsches, 2 were purchased new. He said in his opinion, a 4-5 y.o. with low miles is in the sweet spot. Me and my buddy who has an '08 550i were strategizing on how we can make that leap. Obviously a Porsche is not a daily driver, that's where it becomes "ok" to have a beater
142k for a fully equipped S is not abnormal.
I like the back of the 991, but they made it too big...
Also, a Porsche is a daily drive. I have a 4S and a 4 GTS and they are awesome every day, even in the snow. I can easily get all my shopping done and even pick people up from the airport. Anything that fits in the 335 (2 door) fits in the 997. So long as it is just one more person. But my view is, let the other bastards get their own car :P

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Looks GREAT in person....honestly the best looking 911 since the 993 IMO. The interior finally matches the price tag as well.
997 > 991
I didn't dig the interior too much... seemed less sporty.. also as I said, it is too big. they had one parked next to a 997, and the 991 was WAY higher and felt too large. Not to say I won't buy a 991, but I just wont get rid of my 997.. I'm not totally sold on it yet.. I want to see what they do with the GT3
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I've seen a couple of them lately and while they look absolutely beautiful (legitimately the only Porsche I've ever liked), I can't really find anything on it to justify that kind of a steep price tag. I think most of it is just the name (like most other things) but still. Definitely a sick car nonetheless though.
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I've seen a couple of them lately and while they look absolutely beautiful (legitimately the only Porsche I've ever liked), I can't really find anything on it to justify that kind of a steep price tag. I think most of it is just the name (like most other things) but still. Definitely a sick car nonetheless though.
you've obviously never driven one for an extended period of time to understand the price tag...

worth every penny
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Price is off for that Carrera S. Sorry.
Here you go, configured online

The new 911 Carrera S

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Premium Package Plus with Adaptive Sport Seats Plus

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651

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176

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Sport Chrono Package

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Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) with PASM sport suspension

031

$4,050

Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB)

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$8,520

Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)

250

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you've obviously never driven one for an extended period of time to understand the price tag...

worth every penny
Sweetness.....what do you think of the advice my friend and I were given? A guy told us he has bought 5 Porsches in his life, 2 new, daily driver is a X5M. he told us if you have the money, great, like you said, worth every penny. However, having done what he has, he believes the real sweet spot, especially if you're going to use it as a fair-weathered car, is to look for a 4-5 y.o. used with low miles. He stated the cars will never lose more than 1/2 their value.

I looked online and a 2007 Carrera S still is going for 50k. That is very doable for me, whereas honestly, 100k is not. Not today, and probably not in 5 years. 10? Maybe, but by then I'm sure a new 911 will be over 200.
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142k for a fully equipped S is not abnormal.
I like the back of the 991, but they made it too big...
Also, a Porsche is a daily drive. I have a 4S and a 4 GTS and they are awesome every day, even in the snow. I can easily get all my shopping done and even pick people up from the airport. Anything that fits in the 335 (2 door) fits in the 997. So long as it is just one more person. But my view is, let the other bastards get their own car :P


997 > 991
I didn't dig the interior too much... seemed less sporty.. also as I said, it is too big. they had one parked next to a 997, and the 991 was WAY higher and felt too large. Not to say I won't buy a 991, but I just wont get rid of my 997.. I'm not totally sold on it yet.. I want to see what they do with the GT3
The 991 was WAY higher than the 997?
That's strange being the 991 is .20" shorter in height.
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The 991 was WAY higher than the 997?
That's strange being the 991 is .20" shorter in height.
I thought the 991 was taller too when I saw it, but indeed it is not....maybe he means ground clearance?
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If that were the case the cars would need to be more end to end than side to side don't you think?
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Your 2nd post was a bit misleading. That price doesn't reflect the model most consumers generally purchase. That's definetly an outlier. We can option out a Honda coupe to $50k I'm sure lol. Just saying.
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I have seen a few some them. Basically look the same as the 997 to me. Really the exterior does not look a whole a lot different.

Saw this today also...

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