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      10-11-2011, 12:15 PM   #23
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That would be 35.2 mpg (uk)!!

About the same most are getting from the 2.0D
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      10-11-2011, 01:42 PM   #24
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That would be 35.2 mpg (uk)!!

About the same most are getting from the 2.0D
Yep 8ltrs / 4.546 = 35.42 MPG thats not bad for mixed town and inner city, long journeys will be 40MPG or there abouts IMO.
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      10-11-2011, 01:44 PM   #25
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That would be 35.2 mpg (uk)!!

About the same most are getting from the 2.0D
The bigger engines are more fuel efficient in many cases, especially Diesel.
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      10-11-2011, 04:59 PM   #26
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      10-12-2011, 12:03 AM   #27
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One thing I criticize: There are no real tire pressure sensors; the pressure loss warning is only based on tire-rpm differential comparison. I would say a car that costs $100k should have proper tire pressure sensors and not the el-cheapo solution. (Not sure what the North American situation is here).
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I gather US X3s have the real sensor, while Canadian use rpm-differential. Don't know why.
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      10-12-2011, 03:02 AM   #29
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I gather US X3s have the real sensor, while Canadian use rpm-differential. Don't know why.
I think it's a legal requirement, someone should know, here in the UK we still use the "Pressure differential" method, this is the best way IMO as you can change out the wheels and just reset the system, no need of expensive wheel sensors to be bought for all wheels. I have had these sensors go wrong in Audi's and they ain't cheap.
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      10-12-2011, 07:12 AM   #30
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Suits me to go pressure differential. Much easier to change to winter tyres although it doesn't look like mine is coming until Feb now

Back to the x-trail for winter again!!!
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      10-13-2011, 09:46 AM   #31
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Did a few more miles, including some more spirited curves. Great precision! Can be placed very exact, hugging the inside of the curve. And really sticks to the road for such a car. Some understeering that can be nicely balanced and neutralized with the gas peddal.

Also activated ConnectedDrive. Hmm. Mixed bag. Have the impression that menu was written by a different crew than the rest of the system. Slight problems with activation (SMS activation code didn't arrive, but the ConnectedDrive help line girl did a good job and activated it on her computer).

Noticed when scrolling through radio stations on the steering wheel, that the list on the main display will not syncro-scroll. Should be fixed by BMW, shouldn't be too hard.

And as much as I like the car, I have to say I've been driving cars with less creaking (however slightly). Most of them coming from the center stack. My brother's Audi coupe has almost 120.000 mls (student car) and there are less creaks over joints and manholes.

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      10-15-2011, 10:13 AM   #32
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Did about 300mls through the Alps today, including 6 or 7 mountain passes. Great (not only scenery and weather)! The engine-gearbox combo works flawlessly on mountain roads, literally almost always the right gear. What I like especially is that - going down - it doesn't shift up after switchbacks, but keeps a lower gear for engine breaking without me touching the shifter.

And another thing I know now: If I'm not careful this thing will eat tires like crazy. It is *very* capable through the twisties, very precise for an SUV, and it wants you to go faster.

Average consumption through the mountains 7.6 litre per 100km / 31mpg (US), which is *very* reasonable. I gassed up at that point and the computer showed a range of 643mls.

On the way back home I took autobahn, doing 100mph constant for about 45 minutes (cruise control). Increased total consumption only to 7.7 litre per 100 km / 30.5mpg.

Downsides: On those rough surfaces through the mountains the dash kinda "settled in", with a good deal of creaks. Most of the creaking stopped at some point (can it really "settle in"?), but at higher speeds on the autobahn over the expansion joints the whole dash creaks.

And: At one point the passenger window wouldn't want to go up.

BMW should reallyreally think about the plastics in the dash and about assembly quality of the dash. After more than one year of serial production there should not be any creaks. As said before, the nine year old Audi my brother drives is less creaky.
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720km/450mls so far @ 8 ltr/100km = 30mpg in mixed traffic with quite a bit inner city and (European) town driving.

Folding mirrors can't be retrofitted with reasonable effort.

Sometimes the dash center speaker is the source of slight creaking over harsh joints and deep set manhole covers.
I can't stand creaking I would have to take it back to get that fixed.
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      10-15-2011, 11:40 AM   #34
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My dash area around the I-drive unit creaks lightly on uneven/bumpy road surfaces too. I'm also getting something vibrating in the rear driver's side that sounds like it would be alumium foil vibrating (best way to describe it). I don't have the trunk cover in anymore as that was originally making creaking sounds. I hate interior noises, but I hate the dealer messing with it even more!
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      10-19-2011, 02:14 PM   #35
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Tyre pressure monitors.
I have the differential type on my X3 3.0d in the UK - and sensors on the Caddy SRX that I currently have in the US. I much prefer the differential type on the X3. The SRX is giving me warning messages of underinflation of one tyre yet showing the pressure as identical to the other rear.
Edit to add :Just done a little checking - The SRX should have 35psi in each tyre. I can lower the left rear to 27psi before I get a warning message. Lower the right rear to 29psi and I get a warning. A much smaller difference would certainly give warnings on the differential system that I have on my 535 - I assume (and hope) it would also give a clear warning on my X3!

Fuel consumption.
The X3 easily gets 37mpg (UK) in my typical rural driving - motorway get slightly less (35-36 when cruising at ~85mph). Wish I could get that in the SRX! - Typically 19-21 mpg at a lower cruising speed! (but US gal.)

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      10-20-2011, 07:18 AM   #36
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Sometimes the dash center speaker is the source of slight creaking over harsh joints and deep set manhole covers.
i have noticed that too during the 1st week but does not bother me anymore and just enjoying the ride

i am new to this forum as i am looking for feedbacks from drivers of the new x3

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      10-21-2011, 04:01 AM   #37
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Where is the X3 built? I gather it's not in Germany? My local Hifi shop said to me that the until the X5, he'd never seen a BMW with screws lying loose under the carpet.
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In USA... that explains the loose screws:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_US_...turing_Company

Previous version of X3 was manufactured in Austria.
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In USA... that explains the loose screws:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_US_...turing_Company

Previous version of X3 was manufactured in Austria.
Not being pro/anti US workers, but the plant in the us is the most automated advanced in the world, so the robots are more to blame than anything.
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Not being pro/anti US workers, but the plant in the us is the most automated advanced in the world, so the robots are more to blame than anything.
My prejudices origins from the Simpsons tv-series, no hard feelings

But in München in BMW plant there is the most complex robot team welding the chassis. If I remember correct, it was 12 robots working on the same phase at the same time. It was like watching ballet!
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      10-22-2011, 01:25 AM   #41
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I guess the dash is delivered from a subsupplier and at Spartanburg they just plug it in. And the dash itself is probably human-assembled; doubt that they use a robot for that. After all, one of the reasons for BMW to go to SC were the labor costs.


Btw: Have around 900mls/1450km, and started to use he engine more when passing or merging (or just leaving idiotic cluster-fucks behind me). And the thing flies! Even without downshifts, let alone kickdown, the "in-gear" acceleration is remarkable.
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# "Hofmeister kink" from the inside: That raise in the belt line makes me think there is another car hiding close to my blind spot every time I do a lane change. Will get used to that I guess.
Also glad that it's not just me who has this. I noticed it when I was doing a test drive and also hope that I'll get used to it!
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Any more updates from you guys with the 3.0 Diesels?.
Economy ect.
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Any more updates from you guys with the 3.0 Diesels?.
Economy ect.
My last tank (assuming the fuel computer is accurate) was 30mpg. This was with a lot of short journeys where the engine didn't get warm - the kiss of death for diesel fuel economy. The short journeys themselves were more like 27mpg.

I'm still only on 1,600 miles. Motorway at 75mph to 80mph can consistently deliver 37 mpg but this is driving most of the time with some thought to economy and the Journey stats on continuous display.

Driving style has a significant impact, having fun in spurts on A/B roads when the engine is warm drops economy to 30ish mpg.
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