Sparkling Bronze Requires Special Consideration? - XBimmers

doukeyi · 05-15-2011, 04:44 PM

When customizing X3, does anybody knows why it has a small note there saying it requires special consideration?

Want the thrill · 05-15-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by doukeyi

When customizing X3, does anybody knows why it has a small note there saying it requires special consideration?

It never used to say that. If it does now, that is something new.

doukeyi · 05-15-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Want the thrill

It never used to say that. If it does now, that is something new.

I take a snap shot. It turns out it also happens to "Vermilion Red" and "Blue Water Metallic"

Beyu · 05-15-2011, 05:09 PM

I know it says to take special consideration but I don't think it has anything to do with caring for the car. Black cars are still the hardest to take care of; you should speak with your CA.

kmarei · 05-15-2011, 05:16 PM

As far as I know
SB is one of the 3 custom colours
With VR and the sky blue, can't remember the name
Cool thing is you won't see those colours on dealer lots
They have to be ordered by the customer

gareth12468 · 05-15-2011, 05:18 PM

Maybe because of the shortage of some pigments of the paint.....

midlifecrisis · 05-15-2011, 05:42 PM

As described above, these colors can only be ordered by a customer. It's my understanding that dealers can't order them for stock. It means that any car in these colors was custom ordered by the original owner. Not a huge deal, but they will be a little less common than the others - and the owner waited and got exactly what they wanted.

Mako · 05-15-2011, 05:55 PM

Same goes with some options like automatic high beams. They say special consideration which means dealers can't order those options for stock/lot cars, they are custom orders only. Sort of a cool idea by BMW makes your car more unique.

Want the thrill · 05-15-2011, 06:18 PM

My dealer just got a 28i demo in Vermillon Red delivered to the lot. It wasn't a customers so maybe they just made this change for at least the red color?

doukeyi · 05-15-2011, 06:24 PM

Not sure. I just check the website, it still has this little "*" mark on Vermillon Red.

Mako · 05-15-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Want the thrill

My dealer just got a 28i demo in Vermillon Red delivered to the lot. It wasn't a customers so maybe they just made this change for at least the red color?

Or customer canceled and dealer left it on order...

mole7374 · 05-15-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by midlifecrisis

As described above, these colors can only be ordered by a customer. It's my understanding that dealers can't order them for stock. It means that any car in these colors was custom ordered by the original owner. Not a huge deal, but they will be a little less common than the others - and the owner waited and got exactly what they wanted.

This is the reason....there is no shortage of pigment or special care...BMW is putting this disclaimer on there b/c the ONLY way you can get these colors is to custom order your car...for most of us who are ordering it doesn't matter, but for the soccer mom who wants to shop monday morning and pick up monday evening, they are basically saying that these colors will NOT be on dealer lots...they can only be ordered....that's it.

silverforumsurf · 05-15-2011, 06:58 PM

They also might put it on spec order if they are having supply issues, that way it saves it for those that really want it

tuco44 · 05-15-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mole7374

This is the reason....there is no shortage of pigment or special care...BMW is putting this disclaimer on there b/c the ONLY way you can get these colors is to custom order your car...for most of us who are ordering it doesn't matter, but for the soccer mom who wants to shop monday morning and pick up monday evening, they are basically saying that these colors will NOT be on dealer lots...they can only be ordered....that's it.

Not sure about that, the dealer here has a SB 35i on the showroom floor that was ordered as a spec car, not customer ordered.

mole7374 · 05-15-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tuco44

Not sure about that, the dealer here has a SB 35i on the showroom floor that was ordered as a spec car, not customer ordered.

Yea dealer probably ordered up a spec model for the floor....they used up one of their production allocations for a custom color or someone changed their mind and they have it on the floor now.

xDrive35i · 05-15-2011, 08:47 PM

BMW likes to phrase things in such a convoluted and sophisticated way for two reasons:

1. They want to make you think the option is extremely special, therefore rare and better than every other option. This makes you think that your car is then better and possibly worth more than someone else's car that has one of the non-special order colors.

2. They want to confuse you to a point where you do not understand what it is that you are choosing. You think you need it because "if it's noteworthy enough for BMW to have to tell me about it, then I should probably get it." But in reality, it is no better or worse than any other choice, just different.

The special order concept is a marketing ploy. BMW will pick colors that people typically might not order--colors that require an "acquired" taste--and say that you can only get them if you order them and your dealership cannot order them unless you request that they put you on a special order list.

The words "special order" mean the same thing as Build-Your-Own. The only difference is that you have to really really like the color, AND they want to ensure that the dealerships don't order a fleet of cars with the special colors only to find out that not as many people want them as statistics based on individuality and exclusivity factors might assume.

Those colors require no more "special consideration" than any other colors or options you order.

MrsAdams2007 · 05-15-2011, 08:59 PM

The dealer in Loveland, CO had not one, but TWO vermillion red X3's on their lot...so doubtful that those were abandoned customer orders. They were pretty basic in terms of options too.

xDrive35i · 05-15-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsAdams2007

The dealer in Loveland, CO had not one, but TWO vermillion red X3's on their lot...so doubtful that those were abandoned customer orders. They were pretty basic in terms of options too.

One of those might be an abandoned customer, and the other might be one that's waiting to be prepped before pickup by another customer.

Also, did any of you ever think that your dealership might just not be the angelic group of sales associates that you thought they were? Come on! It's obvious that some of them might be using their order spots to "special order" these colors! Dealers are in the business of making you a deal. That means they have seen far and wide the devious tactics that buyers and other dealers use to get the upper hand of things. They want money. They'll do a lot more than you think to get it.

AND: The fact that they were pretty basic in terms of options just means they ordered non-controversial cars that will be picked out by the least selective of buyers. Ever heard of a sweet 16 present? A lot of parents will buy their ill-informed children high end cars with less options so they can spend less money and still see Mandy's teeth sparkle as bright as her metallic paint.

MrsAdams2007 · 05-15-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by juddholland

One of those might be an abandoned customer, and the other might be one that's waiting to be prepped before pickup by another customer.

Also, did any of you ever think that your dealership might just not be the angelic group of sales associates that you thought they were? Come on! It's obvious that some of them might be using their order spots to "special order" these colors! Dealers are in the business of making you a deal. That means they have seen far and wide the devious tactics that buyers and other dealers use to get the upper hand of things. They want money. They'll do a lot more than you think to get it.

AND: The fact that they were pretty basic in terms of options just means they ordered non-controversial cars that will be picked out by the least selective of buyers. Ever heard of a sweet 16 present? A lot of parents will buy their ill-informed children high end cars with less options so they can spend less money and still see Mandy's teeth sparkle as bright as her metallic paint.

What! You mean I can't trust a car salesman! I would have never guessed that and thank you sincerely for your insight! And for what its worth, both vermillion reds were for sale...

mhrir · 05-15-2011, 10:25 PM

Dealers order cars for inventory all the time that have customer order only options. BMWNA doesn't really care. The restrictions are only a marketing gimmick.

xDrive35i · 05-15-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsAdams2007

What! You mean I can't trust a car salesman! I would have never guessed that and thank you sincerely for your insight! And for what its worth, both vermillion reds were for sale...

Then it's probably just the marketing gimmick.

Bustofa · 05-16-2011, 01:03 AM

Just out of interest, there are no special consideration notes against those colours on the UK configurator.

05-15-2011, 04:44 PM	#1
doukeyi Enlisted Member Drives: 2011 X3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 48 iTrader: (0)	Sparkling Bronze Requires Special Consideration? When customizing X3, does anybody knows why it has a small note there saying it requires special consideration? __________________ I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant
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05-15-2011, 05:16 PM	#5
kmarei Major General Drives: 1988 M3 Evo II Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 6,033 iTrader: (32)	As far as I know SB is one of the 3 custom colours With VR and the sky blue, can't remember the name Cool thing is you won't see those colours on dealer lots They have to be ordered by the customer __________________ "There are two opinions in this world. Mine and the wrong one." -- Jeremy Clarkson

05-15-2011, 05:42 PM	#7
midlifecrisis Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E90 M3 - IB/ExBB Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 546 iTrader: (0)	As described above, these colors can only be ordered by a customer. It's my understanding that dealers can't order them for stock. It means that any car in these colors was custom ordered by the original owner. Not a huge deal, but they will be a little less common than the others - and the owner waited and got exactly what they wanted. __________________ 2008 E90 M3 2000 328i sedan (UUC suspension - still the favorite) 2012 Mini Cooper (wife's) 1991 325iX (sold - gone but not forgotten!) 2011 X3 (Performance Center delivery done May '11)

05-15-2011, 06:24 PM	#10
doukeyi Enlisted Member Drives: 2011 X3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 48 iTrader: (0)	Not sure. I just check the website, it still has this little "*" mark on Vermillon Red. __________________ I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant

05-15-2011, 08:47 PM	#16
xDrive35i Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 X3 35i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,503 iTrader: (0)	BMW likes to phrase things in such a convoluted and sophisticated way for two reasons: 1. They want to make you think the option is extremely special, therefore rare and better than every other option. This makes you think that your car is then better and possibly worth more than someone else's car that has one of the non-special order colors. 2. They want to confuse you to a point where you do not understand what it is that you are choosing. You think you need it because "if it's noteworthy enough for BMW to have to tell me about it, then I should probably get it." But in reality, it is no better or worse than any other choice, just different. The special order concept is a marketing ploy. BMW will pick colors that people typically might not order--colors that require an "acquired" taste--and say that you can only get them if you order them and your dealership cannot order them unless you request that they put you on a special order list. The words "special order" mean the same thing as Build-Your-Own. The only difference is that you have to really really like the color, AND they want to ensure that the dealerships don't order a fleet of cars with the special colors only to find out that not as many people want them as statistics based on individuality and exclusivity factors might assume. Those colors require no more "special consideration" than any other colors or options you order. __________________ 2001 Audi A6 Allroad 2.7T (C5); 2005 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro (C6); 2005 BMW X5 4.4i (E53); 2008 BMW 535xi Sports Wagon (E61); 2011 BMW X3 xDrive35i (F25); 2009 Audi A4 3.2 Quattro Prestige (B8)

05-15-2011, 05:09 PM	#4
Beyu Lieutenant Drives: 135i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WA Posts: 578 iTrader: (0)	I know it says to take special consideration but I don't think it has anything to do with caring for the car. Black cars are still the hardest to take care of; you should speak with your CA.

05-15-2011, 05:18 PM	#6
gareth12468 First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 X3 xDrive 28i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 307 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW X3 [0.00]	Maybe because of the shortage of some pigments of the paint.....

05-15-2011, 05:55 PM	#8
Mako 2000 M Roadster (sold), 2006 M Coupe (sold) Drives: '12 X3 35i M Spt '13 335 M Spt Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,087 iTrader: (0)	Same goes with some options like automatic high beams. They say special consideration which means dealers can't order those options for stock/lot cars, they are custom orders only. Sort of a cool idea by BMW makes your car more unique.

05-15-2011, 06:18 PM	#9
Want the thrill Major Drives: X3 35i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: MI Posts: 1,034 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 X3 35i [4.00]	My dealer just got a 28i demo in Vermillon Red delivered to the lot. It wasn't a customers so maybe they just made this change for at least the red color?

05-15-2011, 06:58 PM	#13
silverforumsurf Private Drives: To Buy Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: California Posts: 94 iTrader: (0)	They also might put it on spec order if they are having supply issues, that way it saves it for those that really want it

05-15-2011, 08:59 PM	#17
MrsAdams2007 Private First Class Drives: Ford F450 :D Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 179 iTrader: (0)	The dealer in Loveland, CO had not one, but TWO vermillion red X3's on their lot...so doubtful that those were abandoned customer orders. They were pretty basic in terms of options too.

05-15-2011, 10:25 PM	#20
mhrir Private First Class Drives: Very fast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In the garage Posts: 142 iTrader: (0)	Dealers order cars for inventory all the time that have customer order only options. BMWNA doesn't really care. The restrictions are only a marketing gimmick.

05-16-2011, 01:03 AM	#22
Bustofa Lieutenant Drives: F25 X3 XDrive20D SE Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Washington, UK Posts: 463 iTrader: (0)	Just out of interest, there are no special consideration notes against those colours on the UK configurator.

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