iDrive / Nav ripoff? - XBimmers

LEDZEP · 03-15-2011, 06:37 AM

Just saw a new X3 in person for the first time yesterday at the local dealership. Took a look inside, and was instantly appaulled to see the itsy-bitsy iDrive screen. Really? What makes it so bad is that there is plenty of room for the full 9" system that comes in "real" BMWs, but they blanked it off with plastic curtains on each side.

That alone would prevent me from buying an X3.

TrikinCurt · 03-15-2011, 06:41 AM

I take it you are not in the US? I didn't think they offered that one here? Either way, get the upgrade and it does have a "real" 8.9" screen.

acey81 · 03-15-2011, 06:48 AM

I thought most BMWs have a smaller screen unless you go for the Nav PRO option?

LEDZEP · 03-15-2011, 07:00 AM

I'm in the US. So, there are two size screens offered? Guess I should research the product specs a bit more... is iDrive standard with a small screen, and upgrade to Nav provides bigger screen?

AJWilson · 03-15-2011, 07:06 AM

Nowadays you get what youy pay for.

jaymk5 · 03-15-2011, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LEDZEP

I'm in the US. So, there are two size screens offered? Guess I should research the product specs a bit more... is iDrive standard with a small screen, and upgrade to Nav provides bigger screen?

Yes

LEDZEP · 03-15-2011, 08:17 AM

Thanks, that makes better sense. The split screen and full screen is an important feature to me. The one I saw obviously didn't have Nav.

Hawkshaw · 03-15-2011, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LEDZEP

I'm in the US. So, there are two size screens offered? Guess I should research the product specs a bit more... is iDrive standard with a small screen, and upgrade to Nav provides bigger screen?

Bingo.

PS Nice to see you over from e90post.com. I remember seeing a lot of your posts when I was over there.

sfax · 03-15-2011, 09:08 AM

As people have said, you need pro nav. Here's what it looks like in an X3 with split screen (sorry for the poor iPhone quality pic)

It is an expensive option though. You pay for every pixel!

Pugger · 03-15-2011, 09:20 AM

Sfax, have a good time down west in wet and windy Fishguard.

ydych chi'n siarad Cymraeg?

perto · 03-15-2011, 09:48 AM

I speak Norwegian

roders · 03-15-2011, 10:02 AM

Here in Australia the 6.5" display is standard, but is only used for basic radio and reversing camera. If you choose for the navigation or TV upgrades you get the 8.9" display. I agree it does look weird with the little 6.5"

sfax · 03-15-2011, 10:26 AM

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Sfax, have a good time down west in wet and windy Fishguard.

Yeah, the weather was better than forecast and on Sunday, well, look at the sky in this pic!

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ydych chi'n siarad Cymraeg?

No but I've got a few good mates from Wales and have enjoyed some quality nights out in Cardiff (and a few crackers in Caerphilly too!) Ahh, The Checkmate. Say no more!

Beyu · 03-15-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sfax

As people have said, you need pro nav. Here's what it looks like in an X3 with split screen (sorry for the poor iPhone quality pic)

It is an expensive option though. You pay for every pixel!

The iDrive/Nav screen we get in the US is a 8.8 inch screen. I was wondering if the nav option included in the technology package in the US is the "pro nav" in the UK. There seems to be more options in the UK such as the audio system which comes in 3 tiers: a base, mid, and pro system; where as in the US they only offer the base and pro.

US iDrive:

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...J0XVowOfhX2Q==

AJWilson · 03-15-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sfax

As people have said, you need pro nav. Here's what it looks like in an X3 with split screen (sorry for the poor iPhone quality pic)

It is an expensive option though. You pay for every pixel!

sfax, you're not taking the mickey mouse out of those whom have only ordered the business media, are you

sfax · 03-15-2011, 10:54 AM

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sfax, you're not taking the mickey mouse out of those whom have only ordered the business media, are you

I'm just bitter because I can't get 6NR!!

thefreeze · 03-15-2011, 10:55 AM

I have noticed that when I was making a test drive there where much more clouds on the satnav screen. Does the system actually get weather conditions and display the horizon accordingly to the weather outside? (or is this a face palm moment...)

AJWilson · 03-15-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by thefreeze

I have noticed that when I was making a test drive there where much more clouds on the satnav screen. Does the system actually get weather conditions and display the horizon accordingly to the weather outside? (or is this a face palm moment...)

It's good but not that good

thefreeze · 03-15-2011, 11:05 AM

ok, a face palm it is. I'll make it a double face palm...

Pugger · 03-15-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sfax

Yeah, the weather was better than forecast and on Sunday, well, look at the sky in this pic!

No but I've got a few good mates from Wales and have enjoyed some quality nights out in Cardiff (and a few crackers in Caerphilly too!) Ahh, The Checkmate. Say no more!

Thats a cracking photo. Makes me wish I could afford those alloys, but they are so expensive. I have never seen Fishguard so sunny. Went camping in September last year to Newquay in west Wales, Temp dropped 10oC as soon as the tents were pitched and hammered it down for 3 nights! With regards to the Pro Sat nav, do the maps update FOC? As for night out Caerphilly, I'd say if it was a great night if you returned with all your limbs intact!

sfax · 03-15-2011, 11:12 AM

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It's good but not that good

There is a night / day setting on the sat nav and then there is an include satellite option which combines real satellite images with the 3d perspective map. The car has a SIM which reads and displays up to date weather conditions so in theory, the sat nav sky could reflect the weather to a degree. In practice, I think the blue sky was a coincidence but if I ever see a grey sky displayed (and I won't have to wait long in the UK), I'll update you

MA78 · 03-15-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sfax

There is a night / day setting on the sat nav and then there is an include satellite option which combines real satellite images with the 3d perspective map. The car has a SIM which reads and displays up to date weather conditions so in theory, the sat nav sky could reflect the weather to a degree. In practice, I think the blue sky was a coincidence but if I ever see a grey sky displayed (and I won't have to wait long in the UK), I'll update you

I wouldn't want it to reflect reality that accurately. Might get depressing.

03-15-2011, 06:37 AM	#1
LEDZEP Lieutenant General Drives: 2009 E70 & 2011 F25 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Area 51 Posts: 12,277 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 X3 35i M Sport [3.93] 2009 X5 M Sport [0.00] 2007 328xi E90 [0.00] 2006 325xiT E91 [0.00]	iDrive / Nav ripoff? Just saw a new X3 in person for the first time yesterday at the local dealership. Took a look inside, and was instantly appaulled to see the itsy-bitsy iDrive screen. Really? What makes it so bad is that there is plenty of room for the full 9" system that comes in "real" BMWs, but they blanked it off with plastic curtains on each side. That alone would prevent me from buying an X3. __________________ I think it is bad luck to be superstitious
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03-15-2011, 07:00 AM	#4
LEDZEP Lieutenant General Drives: 2009 E70 & 2011 F25 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Area 51 Posts: 12,277 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 X3 35i M Sport [3.93] 2009 X5 M Sport [0.00] 2007 328xi E90 [0.00] 2006 325xiT E91 [0.00]	I'm in the US. So, there are two size screens offered? Guess I should research the product specs a bit more... is iDrive standard with a small screen, and upgrade to Nav provides bigger screen? __________________ I think it is bad luck to be superstitious

03-15-2011, 07:06 AM	#5
AJWilson First Lieutenant Drives: BMW X3 2.0D SE Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Fife, UK Posts: 379 iTrader: (0)	Nowadays you get what youy pay for. __________________ BMW F25 X3 xDrive20d SE Alpine White, Black Leather, HUD, Auto, Pro media, Visibility, Climate Comfort,Storage, Cold weather Packs, Pro Loudspeaker system, Sun Protection Glass, Electric Adjust Front Seats, Reversing Camera with Top View, 19" 309's,Variable Damper Control,Variable sport steering, Sports Seats, Sports Steering Wheel. Re-ordered 27/7/11, Arrived 28/9/11

03-15-2011, 08:17 AM	#7
LEDZEP Lieutenant General Drives: 2009 E70 & 2011 F25 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Area 51 Posts: 12,277 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 X3 35i M Sport [3.93] 2009 X5 M Sport [0.00] 2007 328xi E90 [0.00] 2006 325xiT E91 [0.00]	Thanks, that makes better sense. The split screen and full screen is an important feature to me. The one I saw obviously didn't have Nav. __________________ I think it is bad luck to be superstitious

03-15-2011, 09:08 AM	#9
sfax Brigadier General Drives: BMW X3 2011 F25 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 3,774 iTrader: (0)	As people have said, you need pro nav. Here's what it looks like in an X3 with split screen (sorry for the poor iPhone quality pic) It is an expensive option though. You pay for every pixel! __________________ BMW X3 (F25) xDrive20d SE . . titanium silver . . titanium front grille . . 309s . . xline . . xenons . . black leather . . alu trim . . professional multimedia package . . dynamic package . . climate package . . electric seats . . folding mirrors . . servotronic steering . . DAB radio . . business speakers . . sun protection glass . . split rear seats . .

03-15-2011, 06:41 AM	#2
TrikinCurt Private First Class Drives: X3 35i Mineral Silver Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hudson,WI Posts: 108 iTrader: (0)	I take it you are not in the US? I didn't think they offered that one here? Either way, get the upgrade and it does have a "real" 8.9" screen.

03-15-2011, 06:48 AM	#3
acey81 Private First Class Drives: F25 on order Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 184 iTrader: (0)	I thought most BMWs have a smaller screen unless you go for the Nav PRO option?

03-15-2011, 09:20 AM	#10
Pugger Private First Class Drives: X3 xDrive 2.0d Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cardiff Posts: 162 iTrader: (0)	Sfax, have a good time down west in wet and windy Fishguard. ydych chi'n siarad Cymraeg?

03-15-2011, 09:48 AM	#11
perto Private First Class Drives: BMW X3 F25, Moto Guzzi Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Norway Posts: 135 iTrader: (0)	I speak Norwegian

03-15-2011, 10:02 AM	#12
roders Second Lieutenant Drives: BMW X3 3.0D MSport F25 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Perth, WA, Australia Posts: 207 iTrader: (0)	Here in Australia the 6.5" display is standard, but is only used for basic radio and reversing camera. If you choose for the navigation or TV upgrades you get the 8.9" display. I agree it does look weird with the little 6.5"

03-15-2011, 10:55 AM	#17
thefreeze Hans Drives: 2011 X3 2.0D Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Holland Posts: 116 iTrader: (0)	I have noticed that when I was making a test drive there where much more clouds on the satnav screen. Does the system actually get weather conditions and display the horizon accordingly to the weather outside? (or is this a face palm moment...) __________________ X3 20D auto High Executive. Moonroof, privacy glass, sport seats, professional audio & sat nav, 19" 309 wheels summer, 18" 307 winter, X-Line, Xenon, parking heater. Mineral Silver / Oyster leather interior, wave trim. V70 2.5T (private)

03-15-2011, 11:05 AM	#19
thefreeze Hans Drives: 2011 X3 2.0D Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Holland Posts: 116 iTrader: (0)	ok, a face palm it is. I'll make it a double face palm... __________________ X3 20D auto High Executive. Moonroof, privacy glass, sport seats, professional audio & sat nav, 19" 309 wheels summer, 18" 307 winter, X-Line, Xenon, parking heater. Mineral Silver / Oyster leather interior, wave trim. V70 2.5T (private)

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