UK bluetooth - XBimmers

X3buyerScotland · 01-29-2011, 12:51 PM

My dealer tells me that without buying the 6NH option at £280? my iPhone will not be able to bluetooth to the car. Is this true? Thanks.

sfax · 01-29-2011, 01:47 PM

Only if you don't have a sat nav package. Prof definitely includes Bluetooth and I think business does too

cooldude00 · 01-29-2011, 03:31 PM

i went for the bluetooth w usb option (but not voice control) - does this mean i can't use my iphone or blackberry bold with the car? no sat nav options chosen... this can't be right surely?

X3buyerScotland · 01-29-2011, 04:14 PM

I am looking at a 3.0lSE with no sat Nav or (at present) sound update. I thought a STD 3.0lSE like all UK spec X3s came with a Prodessional radio as STD? Confused!

sfax · 01-29-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cooldude00

i went for the bluetooth w usb option (but not voice control) - does this mean i can't use my iphone or blackberry bold with the car? no sat nav options chosen... this can't be right surely?

I don't have the brochure to hand but from memory, for Bluetooth you only need the Bluetooth phone preparation option. This is included with sat nav options but sat nav isn't a prerequisite for Bluetooth. You will need a cradle that fits your phone but I think this option includes a universal connector. Ask BUK76 about required accessories for BlackBerry.

I'll post some more "real life" feedback when I get mine next month because I have found the whole phone integration bewildering

BIMMER UK 76 · 01-30-2011, 03:45 AM

Your blackberry should work fine via bluetooth, you only need the snap in cradle if you want to charge your blackberry (snap in cradle also boosts reception as it uses the cars aerial but can be a pain to dock in armrest each time)

Nahoa · 01-30-2011, 11:07 AM

The Connected Office video on BMW USA shows the ability to have two phones (I think they said up to 4) connected via Bluetooth at the same time. One designated as primary that could make and receive calls and one designated as secondary that could only receive. One iPhone and one Blackberry. The message info came only from the primary. One of the two could be designated for music streaming.

Both couldn't be in the snap-in holder at the same time, so that seems to confirm at least that part isn't required for Bluetooth connectivity. The user swapped the "primary" phone w/o swapping the phone out of the holder, changing which one made calls and displayed calendar and message info through the Office feature.

The info blurb on the Smartphone Integration says that it allows display of album art when playing music from the device. Don't know if that means the other cable connection doesn't provide that ability, or if they both do.

TuffLittleUnit · 02-02-2011, 05:28 PM

Does anyone know what the Voice Control option adds on top of basic Bluetooth (so I'm talking about an X3 without one of the media packages)? I'm expecting it to be able to recognise phone favourite names but I suspect it also controls some iDrive functions. Does it include text to speech for email etc?

e.g. will I be able to access email on my Blackberry via iDrive? There is mention of several phones being connected - does this mean I could be accessing media on my iPhone at the same time? (I have both - the Blackberry for email, calendar etc and the iPhone for voice etc)

In a snap decision I ordered the voice control + bluetooth + USB option on the basis that the standard bluetooth integration may be too simple for true handsfree operation and that given the doubling in cost it probably was an order of magnitude better but I've actually got no idea whatsoever what I've actually ordered (and yeah, I'm the same guy that was grumbling about £90 for the sport steering wheel

). The prices I was getting were too good to be true so I just threw a few extra options on to get to the cost previously agreed with Mrs Tuff

cooldude00 · 02-04-2011, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BIMMER UK 76

Your blackberry should work fine via bluetooth, you only need the snap in cradle if you want to charge your blackberry (snap in cradle also boosts reception as it uses the cars aerial but can be a pain to dock in armrest each time)

so the bluetooth w usb option doesn't come with the cradle then? that's a seperate option? does it have to be ordered at time of manufacturer or a simple snap in after delivery?

sfax · 02-04-2011, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldude00

so the bluetooth w usb option doesn't come with the cradle then? that's a seperate option? does it have to be ordered at time of manufacturer or a simple snap in after delivery?

I don't have the printed brochure to hand (and there is STILL NO PDF available

) but I'm pretty sure that it says you get a cradle included with any bluetooth option. You may need a different cradle or adapter for a specific type of phone.

If you don't, it's £72 as an accesory (snap-in adaptor)

Quote:

Snap-in adapter
A docking system suitable for current Apple, Nokia, Motorola and Sony Ericsson handsets, and for RIM BlackBerry® devices. With the interchangeable phone-specific snap-in adapter, drivers can charge their mobile phone via the mobile phone preparation with Bluetooth interface. An external aerial ensures the best possible reception at all times. For Apple iPhone 3G S and iPhone 4 handsets, a snap-in media adapter is also available. In addition to the basic functions of the snap-in adapter, this also enables music files stored on the device to be played over the vehicle's audio system, and shows the cover artwork on the control display.

Price from £72.00 *

Available for X3 from 11/10

cooldude00 · 02-04-2011, 05:34 AM

this is just plain confusing

... this adapter talks about an external aerial as well.. not even sure if we get that as part of the basic bluetooth option..

Nahoa · 02-04-2011, 06:43 AM

External aerial is already built into the car.

sfax · 02-04-2011, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldude00

this is just plain confusing

... this adapter talks about an external aerial as well.. not even sure if we get that as part of the basic bluetooth option..

I agree that it is ridiculously confusing, not just to us but remarkably also to the people who work for BMW. If you have a brochure to hand then check it because I have read that the 6NF cradle is standard with any bluetooth option

TuffLittleUnit · 02-05-2011, 10:05 AM

From the UK brochure "6NF Telephone USB audio interface, includes an additional connection point for the playback of music from a mobile phone with a built in music player. See page 38 for full details. This option comes as standard with any Bluetooth option"

My reading of this is that it's just the USB port.

Page 38 doesn't do anything to clarify things because it starts to use phrases like "in conjunction with a navigation system" and what we're clearly interested in here is what you get WITHOUT nav.

Don't suppose anyone has an answer on my voice control question above?

X3buyerScotland · 02-05-2011, 12:04 PM

Sick of the confusion, I have declined all overpriced bluetooth options and bought heated seats instead.

sfax · 02-05-2011, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X3buyerScotland

Sick of the confusion, I have declined all overpriced bluetooth options and bought heated seats instead.

lol Are heated seats compatible with all leather colours?!

01-29-2011, 12:51 PM	#1
X3buyerScotland Lieutenant Drives: 3.0d SE F25 & loving it Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 464 iTrader: (0)	UK bluetooth My dealer tells me that without buying the 6NH option at £280? my iPhone will not be able to bluetooth to the car. Is this true? Thanks.
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01-29-2011, 01:47 PM	#2
sfax Brigadier General Drives: BMW X3 2011 F25 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 3,791 iTrader: (0)	Only if you don't have a sat nav package. Prof definitely includes Bluetooth and I think business does too __________________ BMW X3 (F25) xDrive20d SE . . titanium silver . . titanium front grille . . 309s . . xline . . xenons . . black leather . . alu trim . . professional multimedia package . . dynamic package . . climate package . . electric seats . . folding mirrors . . servotronic steering . . DAB radio . . business speakers . . sun protection glass . . split rear seats . .

01-30-2011, 03:45 AM	#6
BIMMER UK 76 Major Drives: BMW F25 X3 20d SE Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,080 iTrader: (0)	Your blackberry should work fine via bluetooth, you only need the snap in cradle if you want to charge your blackberry (snap in cradle also boosts reception as it uses the cars aerial but can be a pain to dock in armrest each time) __________________ BMW F25 X3 xDRIVE 20d SE Black Sapphire \| Oyster Leather \| Fineline Sienna Wood \| 307 V Spokes \| Auto \| Prof Multimedia Package \| xLine Package \| Xenons \| Business Radio \| Sports Steering Wheel \| Sports Seats \| Panoramic Sunroof \| Sun Protection Glass \| Sun Blinds \| Folding Ext. Mirrors + Titanium Grille \| Chrome Exhaust Trim \| Mudflaps

01-30-2011, 11:07 AM	#7
Nahoa Lieutenant Colonel Drives: F25 35i Mineral Silver/Black Join Date: May 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,855 iTrader: (0)	The Connected Office video on BMW USA shows the ability to have two phones (I think they said up to 4) connected via Bluetooth at the same time. One designated as primary that could make and receive calls and one designated as secondary that could only receive. One iPhone and one Blackberry. The message info came only from the primary. One of the two could be designated for music streaming. Both couldn't be in the snap-in holder at the same time, so that seems to confirm at least that part isn't required for Bluetooth connectivity. The user swapped the "primary" phone w/o swapping the phone out of the holder, changing which one made calls and displayed calendar and message info through the Office feature. The info blurb on the Smartphone Integration says that it allows display of album art when playing music from the device. Don't know if that means the other cable connection doesn't provide that ability, or if they both do. __________________

02-04-2011, 06:43 AM	#12
Nahoa Lieutenant Colonel Drives: F25 35i Mineral Silver/Black Join Date: May 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,855 iTrader: (0)	External aerial is already built into the car. __________________

01-29-2011, 03:31 PM	#3
cooldude00 Second Lieutenant Drives: x3 2.0d Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: uk Posts: 291 iTrader: (0)	i went for the bluetooth w usb option (but not voice control) - does this mean i can't use my iphone or blackberry bold with the car? no sat nav options chosen... this can't be right surely?

01-29-2011, 04:14 PM	#4
X3buyerScotland Lieutenant Drives: 3.0d SE F25 & loving it Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 464 iTrader: (0)	I am looking at a 3.0lSE with no sat Nav or (at present) sound update. I thought a STD 3.0lSE like all UK spec X3s came with a Prodessional radio as STD? Confused!

02-02-2011, 05:28 PM	#8
TuffLittleUnit Second Lieutenant Drives: X3 xDrive 20d SE Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 205 iTrader: (0)	Does anyone know what the Voice Control option adds on top of basic Bluetooth (so I'm talking about an X3 without one of the media packages)? I'm expecting it to be able to recognise phone favourite names but I suspect it also controls some iDrive functions. Does it include text to speech for email etc? e.g. will I be able to access email on my Blackberry via iDrive? There is mention of several phones being connected - does this mean I could be accessing media on my iPhone at the same time? (I have both - the Blackberry for email, calendar etc and the iPhone for voice etc) In a snap decision I ordered the voice control + bluetooth + USB option on the basis that the standard bluetooth integration may be too simple for true handsfree operation and that given the doubling in cost it probably was an order of magnitude better but I've actually got no idea whatsoever what I've actually ordered (and yeah, I'm the same guy that was grumbling about £90 for the sport steering wheel ). The prices I was getting were too good to be true so I just threw a few extra options on to get to the cost previously agreed with Mrs Tuff

02-04-2011, 05:34 AM	#11
cooldude00 Second Lieutenant Drives: x3 2.0d Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: uk Posts: 291 iTrader: (0)	this is just plain confusing ... this adapter talks about an external aerial as well.. not even sure if we get that as part of the basic bluetooth option..

02-05-2011, 10:05 AM	#14
TuffLittleUnit Second Lieutenant Drives: X3 xDrive 20d SE Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 205 iTrader: (0)	From the UK brochure "6NF Telephone USB audio interface, includes an additional connection point for the playback of music from a mobile phone with a built in music player. See page 38 for full details. This option comes as standard with any Bluetooth option" My reading of this is that it's just the USB port. Page 38 doesn't do anything to clarify things because it starts to use phrases like "in conjunction with a navigation system" and what we're clearly interested in here is what you get WITHOUT nav. Don't suppose anyone has an answer on my voice control question above? __________________ X3 xDrive20d SE, Auto, Space Grey/Oyster, Cold weather pack (heated seats front/rear, heated steering wheel, through load), Business loudspeaker system, Electric lumbar support, Voice control system + Bluetooth prep.

02-05-2011, 12:04 PM	#15
X3buyerScotland Lieutenant Drives: 3.0d SE F25 & loving it Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 464 iTrader: (0)	Sick of the confusion, I have declined all overpriced bluetooth options and bought heated seats instead.

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