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      03-08-2018, 07:39 PM   #1
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New order, can I request 2019 X3 m40i?

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I am considering placing an order in the near future, by summer, but would like a 2019 build. How would I go about making sure that happens? I am starting to get figures back for a Spartanburg delivery, and if I find a great deal, do I put a deposit down to lock in that price and wait until 2019 models are available? I'm in no rush as I have a great vehicle that I am happy with.
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      03-08-2018, 10:25 PM   #2
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Is that even possible - to place an order now for next year's build? I can see about leaving a deposit for a production slot, but I don't know how you would be able to lock down any pricing considering that the options and packages may be different in both features and cost. I don't think the CAs can put in any order for a future build - there are so many unknowns.
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      03-09-2018, 12:02 AM   #3
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Is that even possible - to place an order now for next year's build? I can see about leaving a deposit for a production slot, but I don't know how you would be able to lock down any pricing considering that the options and packages may be different in both features and cost. I don't think the CAs can put in any order for a future build - there are so many unknowns.
No, you can't order until the dealer has allocations. You can probably put a deposit down in exchange for a promise to have the first 2019 allocation, but you can't actually place an order until the dealer has an allocation to fill.
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You also won't likely be locked in for the "great deal" you find, if you insist on a 2019 build, as the dealer won't have pricing or any of that info to see what deals they are able to offer.

Is there a reason you want specifically a 2019? It wouldn't make much difference unless it is being LCI'd for 2019 which I doubt it is in the second year.
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When will the 2019's order sheet become available? SIL is looking to take delivery around May and our CA told us she'll need to order in April for an X3 in general. We didn't discuss model years.
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You also won't likely be locked in for the "great deal" you find, if you insist on a 2019 build, as the dealer won't have pricing or any of that info to see what deals they are able to offer.

Is there a reason you want specifically a 2019? It wouldn't make much difference unless it is being LCI'd for 2019 which I doubt it is in the second year.
No reason really, just curious. And was thinking if I place an order in April and get a 2018, but can wait two months and order in June might get 2019, might just wait.

And also would like to have the correct M steering wheel and the option of M performance bits ie black grill.

When does production usually start on the next year?

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I never understood how automakers got away with releasing a vehicle in the current calendar year and called it a model year in which the entire planet does not yet live and breathe. but do you really have a 2019 if it's 2018 AND then when calendar year 2019 rolls around they release a 2020 model....? lol nahhhhh. you don't. it's when it was built.

someone explain the phenomena to me please.
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The 2019 X3 30i sDrive pricing guide was recently added to the BMW Press Group USA site. This is the rear wheel drive version with production beginning March 2018 so different model. My guess is the 2019 X3 will begin production this summer.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/usa/a...41EN_US/403418
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I never understood how automakers got away with releasing a vehicle in the current calendar year and called it a model year in which the entire planet does not yet live and breathe. but do you really have a 2019 if it's 2018 AND then when calendar year 2019 rolls around they release a 2020 model....? lol nahhhhh. you don't. it's when it was built.

someone explain the phenomena to me please.
It's all marketing. Sometimes they also release current year model within the current year. You really have to judge a car by it's in-service date for things like warranty anyway.

If they base it on build date, then on January 1st they would be switching to "a new model". Say the new X5 gets released this September, would you expect them to call this a 2018 model then come January 1st they suddenly call it a 2019 model?
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No reason really, just curious. And was thinking if I place an order in April and get a 2018, but can wait two months and order in June might get 2019, might just wait.

And also would like to have the correct M steering wheel and the option of M performance bits ie black grill.

When does production usually start on the next year?
I agree it would be worth waiting for the M steering wheel, I am waiting to see if that is confirmed on the 2019 model.

If that is confirmed for 2019 I will likely look into getting into a 2019 model, but if not, I will try to pick up a steal on a 2018 model.

I think 2019 production models normally begins around August time, but not entirely sure.
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Oops quoted wrong person.
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I never understood how automakers got away with releasing a vehicle in the current calendar year and called it a model year in which the entire planet does not yet live and breathe. but do you really have a 2019 if it's 2018 AND then when calendar year 2019 rolls around they release a 2020 model....? lol nahhhhh. you don't. it's when it was built.

someone explain the phenomena to me please.
Probably similar to a fiscal year, which usually starts in September. It makes sense for accounting purposes sometimes to not be tied to the calendar, for example when you're producing dozens of models and need to stagger development.

If my X3, built in November, were a 2017, and one built in January is suddenly a 2018, then the model year now tells us nothing about the car, as far as it's production run. As it stands now, we all know that 2018s had a certain feature set, available colors, factory tooling, etc.

The alternative would be to have all the factories retooled in December to align production to the calendar and release all new models in January, or to pull back the model year by one to indicate production start, which is just arbitrary and probably makes less sense given the majority of current 2018s are in fact produced in 2018.

I don't really know the answer, just speculating. I'm not coming up with a reason why they shouldn't do it the way they do now. 2017 or 2018, It's really just an arbitrary name for the production run, they could call it "bob".
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It's all marketing. Sometimes they also release current year model within the current year. You really have to judge a car by it's in-service date for things like warranty anyway.

If they base it on build date, then on January 1st they would be switching to "a new model". Say the new X5 gets released this September, would you expect them to call this a 2018 model then come January 1st they suddenly call it a 2019 model?
Exactly. There's a simple explanation, which is basically the same as how a lot of companies are currently operating in 'fiscal year' 2019. Despite not being the 'calendar' year 2019, BMW's 2019 'production' year will start in July.

I think the whole world shifted to think like this after all of the annoyance in the 80's and 90's with the half-year models, and things like that. "Oh, you own an '86 Supra?" "No, I don't, I own an '86.5 Supra." It sounds like a child saying they're 8 and a half years old. Pedantic, but everything matters when it comes down to marketing.
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I agree it would be worth waiting for the M steering wheel, I am waiting to see if that is confirmed on the 2019 model.
M steering is not confirmed if the MY19 X3 sdrive order guide is anything to go by. It's also not on the X4 order guide.
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Why do you not have the M-steering wheel in the US?
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Why do you not have the M-steering wheel in the US?
Good freaking question!
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I'm going to feel bad for all the people who are holding off in hopes of an M sport steering wheel next year if it doesn't materialize. Maybe it's BMW I should feel bad for because they may anger customers and lose business, but the M40i is a great car regardless. Must be painful to hold off.
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BMW production schedules show the 2019MY G01 (x30 and M40) with a start of production 8/18.
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M steering is not confirmed if the MY19 X3 sdrive order guide is anything to go by. It's also not on the X4 order guide.
Personally the m-sport steering isn't a deciding factor for me, the car is a great car regardless. I'm also currently in no rush to change up to a bigger car until around July anyway, at that time order specs would be out for the MY19.

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Why do you not have the M-steering wheel in the US?
I believe USA don't have M-Sport steering wheel currently due to some crash test regulation in the X3 or something..because the M550i has the same steering wheel so there is definitely no production issues.

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I'm going to feel bad for all the people who are holding off in hopes of an M sport steering wheel next year if it doesn't materialize. Maybe it's BMW I should feel bad for because they may anger customers and lose business, but the M40i is a great car regardless. Must be painful to hold off.
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