[Soup02]

Hi all

My company ordered an X3e through a broker in January. I've just been quoted a delivery time of "Late August to Early September". I realise that some of this was the fact that the car has only just been assigned a build allocation, but still outrageous.

The blame is placed on a shortage of microchips. Anyone else had anything similar?

[Jiffy10]

Originally Posted by Soup02

Hi all

My company ordered an X3e through a broker in January. I've just been quoted a delivery time of "Late August to Early September". I realise that some of this was the fact that the car has only just been assigned a build allocation, but still outrageous.

The blame is placed on a shortage of microchips. Anyone else had anything similar?

Yep, mine arrived 1st March, waited 8 months and 17 days

[plagm]

outrageous, but still people buy...........god forbid people go elseware...... so many BMW hybrid battery delays and recall issues but does it affect sales.....nope we put up with anything, and they know it

[Mindau]

I guess you should be getting an LCI version of the car then - they should have changed the production line to LCI by then.

[huggy509]

I’m not getting the hybrid car thing ?
My 530d x drive easily got 50mpg and could hit 63mpg giving well over 900 mile range
Compared to a colleagues company 530e getting low 40’s mog on same drive of around 200 mile even with starting with a charged battery from home to motorway

I don’t get the tax breaks either, they are just a fossil fuel internal combustion engine

Give me a 3 litre straight 6 diesel for my needs anyday if I’m honest

[Soup02]

Originally Posted by Mindau

I guess you should be getting an LCI version of the car then - they should have changed the production line to LCI by then.

Oh man i hope so! Any thoughts on when LCIs will be announced and start rolling off the line?

[fndrplayer13]

Originally Posted by huggy509

I’m not getting the hybrid car thing ?
My 530d x drive easily got 50mpg and could hit 63mpg giving well over 900 mile range
Compared to a colleagues company 530e getting low 40’s mog on same drive of around 200 mile even with starting with a charged battery from home to motorway

I don’t get the tax breaks either, they are just a fossil fuel internal combustion engine

Give me a 3 litre straight 6 diesel for my needs anyday if I’m honest

I'm not sure I follow this -- the x30e is significantly more fuel efficient than the standard x30i. My x30e has a lifetime MPG consumption of 38MPG (US). The quoted consumption for a standard x30i is a combined 26MPG (US). Thats more than a 10MPG boost, and the 30e has increased horsepower and a faster 0-60. Best of all, if you're a US customer you get a $6000 tax credit, which makes the car cheaper than a 30i.

[tiggerii]

I ordered my X3 30e in November with a delivery quote of March. The order was then delayed due the packs changing and I'm currently being quoted a June delivery. Haven't had the chip shortage excuse yet.

When I spoke to my sales person last week he told me he was about to phone a customer who had ordered an X3 30e in February to tell them that their order could not be met this year and it was being cancelled.

[Speedbird1]

Originally Posted by Soup02

Hi all

My company ordered an X3e through a broker in January. I've just been quoted a delivery time of "Late August to Early September". I realise that some of this was the fact that the car has only just been assigned a build allocation, but still outrageous.

The blame is placed on a shortage of microchips. Anyone else had anything similar?

Whilst a completely different order in terms of build spec, (and doesn't specifically answer your question re the chips delay) just for comparison on BMW wait times, even when not in the midst of a pandemic, and without a global chip shortage, when I ordered my G01 on July 1st 2018, it didn't arrive for me to pick up until mid January 2019. So nearly 7 months, and that was ordered directly from Park Lane, which is their flagship dealership.

[spangle1980]

Originally Posted by huggy509

Give me a 3 litre straight 6 diesel for my needs anyday if I’m honest

Joy :-)

[spangle1980]

Originally Posted by Speedbird1

Whilst a completely different order in terms of build spec, (and doesn't specifically answer your question re the chips delay) just for comparison on BMW wait times, even when not in the midst of a pandemic, and without a global chip shortage, when I ordered my G01 on July 1st 2018, it didn't arrive for me to pick up until mid January 2019. So nearly 7 months, and that was ordered directly from Park Lane, which is their flagship dealership.

INteresting - I got mine from the same place :-). I just looked back thinking "Jeeez mine was only a few months" and indeed order date July 11 delivery mid-December.

[theleg]

Originally Posted by huggy509

I’m not getting the hybrid car thing ?
My 530d x drive easily got 50mpg and could hit 63mpg giving well over 900 mile range
Compared to a colleagues company 530e getting low 40’s mog on same drive of around 200 mile even with starting with a charged battery from home to motorway

I don’t get the tax breaks either, they are just a fossil fuel internal combustion engine

Give me a 3 litre straight 6 diesel for my needs anyday if I’m honest

Company car tax is why people go for them and most will never ever plug them in either lol

[plagm]

Originally Posted by fndrplayer13

I'm not sure I follow this -- the x30e is significantly more fuel efficient than the standard x30i. My x30e has a lifetime MPG consumption of 38MPG (US). The quoted consumption for a standard x30i is a combined 26MPG (US). Thats more than a 10MPG boost, and the 30e has increased horsepower and a faster 0-60. Best of all, if you're a US customer you get a $6000 tax credit, which makes the car cheaper than a 30i.

MY 30D does 45MPG is more powerful (same BHP but 650 NM vs 420) and is faster 0-60 than your 30e, has a range over 550mile, the trunk ! is also 20% smaller, your car is also £5K MORE.

[Mindau]

Originally Posted by Soup02

Oh man i hope so! Any thoughts on when LCIs will be announced and start rolling off the line?

Well, i was told that production of LCI should start around July, with first deliveries being end of August / September in Europe. And also its not possible to order a current version of G01 anymore here in Denmark, new prices will come along in a month or 2 with the model being revealed.

I havent got my order cancelled, placed it late february, but i was told that i will get an LCI most probably with equivalent configuration so fingers crossed!!

[plagm]

Originally Posted by Mindau

Well, i was told that production of LCI should start around July, with first deliveries being end of August / September in Europe. And also its not possible to order a current version of G01 anymore here in Denmark, new prices will come along in a month or 2 with the model being revealed.

I havent got my order cancelled, placed it late february, but i was told that i will get an LCI most probably with equivalent configuration so fingers crossed!!

I don't wish to put a downer on your hopes but i don't see that happening any recent orders should have a build slot before july ? do we know better ? cant see a european order taking 5 months to start production ?

Also if the build week allocated would only allow an order for a car they were going to produce i would of thought,

Have you enquired about ordering the Lci if current model is no longer available to order. do you know when orders for this will start ? dealers will know past history of shut off and opening of order book to make an educated guest, and the reality is they will know because bmw have known for years, assuming they have a business strategy.

I have to say if i was that close to missing out i would be pushing dealers.

i know some people don't care about the lci but if just a few week after taking the delivery i saw the lci i think i would have buyers remorse.

Only down side is price change or less offered on the deal. Incentives on outgoing models is often good, also with the lci coming as it gets closer they may be cancelled cars floating arround and these will be good deals with immediate delivery.

[spangle1980]

^^^ What he said, although temper that with resale value (if you're buying versus lease) would most definitely be higher for a newer model LCI versus one made a couple of weeks before. If I were buying in 3-4 years time I'd want the LCI.

So, personally, I'd get it in writing you have the LCI or threaten to cancel/replace (even with the delay). Maybe that is just me wanting the new toys :-)

[HighlandPete]

Besides some production issues, (including chips and options), it appears to me there is high demand for the hybrid models.

Rather than being outrageous, isn't it more a case of "too many customers"?

[plagm]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Besides some production issues, (including chips and options), it appears to me there is high demand for the hybrid models.

Rather than being outrageous, isn't it more a case of "too many customers"?

All BMW hybrids have had massive delays with battery issues for the last 6 -9 months and the knock on effect is causing delays, people are waiting in all markets for replacement batteries(cells) and recalls to be sorted.

on top of this the Benefit in kind tax for company car drivers in the uk is ? i think 10% vs 35+ for the petrol and diesels.

hence the rush to buy the 25e,30e,45e......

[spangle1980]

Originally Posted by plagm

on top of this the Benefit in kind tax for company car drivers in the uk is ? i think 10% vs 35+ for the petrol and diesels.

hence the rush to buy the 25e,30e,45e......

Don't worry all you planet savers, give it a couple of years and that 10% will surely get to a nice hefty 30+. I remember having a company diesel back in the day when it was super cheap because diesel was the saviour of the planet, then the taxes went down and the Mr (yes - non PC but WTH) UK HMRC said 'arf a mo', these geezers ain't payin' enuff' and ... voila.

[tiggerii]

Had an update from my dealer last night and the DW Expected date for my X3 30e ordered in November 2020 has moved out from mid June to the end of July

[huggy509]

Lack of semiconductor devices is causing delays in many industries and especially car industry. Semicon business is ramping up rapidly to try and cope, no doubt through to an oversupply and then a downturn

[spangle1980]

Same everywhere I think. You try to buy a Dyson hair curler

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