M Sport Steering Wheel Heated or Not?

alexg62 · 04-04-2012, 08:13 PM

Trying to order 2013 X3 and getting conflicting answers from multiple dealers. Can someone with M Sport package confirm if steering wheel is heated or not? You can't order ZCW (cold package) with ZMP. However, you can add 40-20-40 and Heated Front Seats as separate items.

Another weird thing is that you can’t add ZCX (cold package 2) because ZCW is not selected.

tuco44 · 04-04-2012, 08:33 PM

Don't know about in US, but in Canada you can get heated steering wheel with MSport.

KingX · 04-04-2012, 09:07 PM

I don't know how dealers can give wrong answers on this. The website is pretty straight forward. Speaking on US 2013 models...

You can only buy ZCX if you already bought ZCW, as it was in 2012 MY. Just like you can't get technology ZTP without first getting ZPP Premium.

You do get a heated steering wheel if you order ZMP and ZCW as it was also in the 2012 MY.

alexg62 · 04-04-2012, 09:12 PM

You can't select ZCW with ZMP on bmwusa. I tried it again today with 2013 model. Dealer is telling the same.

KingX · 04-04-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg62

You can't select ZCW with ZMP on bmwusa. I tried it again today with 2013 model. Dealer is telling the same.

Ok ..I just tried it with both the 28i and 35i and I can add both the "M Sport" and "cold weather I" package at the same time. Don't know why you can't

Also I ordered mine already with all those packages (2013 X3 35i) so I know they can be added together.

lbjgh · 04-04-2012, 09:46 PM

BMW does a crappy job of its website in Canada and it doesn't sound like the US site is any better.

I'd poke around and see if you can find the 2013 product and ordering guide. I have the Canadian guide but that ain't gonna help you.

alexg62 · 04-04-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KingX

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Originally Posted by alexg62

You can't select ZCW with ZMP on bmwusa. I tried it again today with 2013 model. Dealer is telling the same.

Ok ..I just tried it with both the 28i and 35i and I can add both the "M Sport" and "cold weather I" package at the same time. Don't know why you can't

Also I ordered mine already with all those packages (2013 X3 35i) so I know they can be added together.

add driving assist and see what happens

KingX · 04-04-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg62

add driving assist and see what happens

The issue then isn't the ZCW and ZMP that you stated earlier

since you can have those together.

The issue is the ZCW and the Driver Assistance Package can't be together.

I guess you can't have cold weather and driver assistance in at the same time. Driver Assistance was the only package I didn't add in my build because I didn't see the need for it and what do you know it worked out for the best because I much rather have the cold weather package where I live than the driver assistance any day

BSM328xi · 04-05-2012, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KingX

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Originally Posted by alexg62

add driving assist and see what happens

The issue then isn't the ZCW and ZMP that you stated earlier

since you can have those together.

The issue is the ZCW and the Driver Assistance Package can't be together.

I guess you can't have cold weather and driver assistance in at the same time. Driver Assistance was the only package I didn't add in my build because I didn't see the need for it and what do you know it worked out for the best because I much rather have the cold weather package where I live than the driver assistance any day

King is correct. As i have said before, you can order ZCW and ZMP you just don't get the heated steering wheel. As for the ZDA and ZCW you cannot order together. You can order head-up display as a standalone option with ZCW though.

KingX · 04-05-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BSM328xi

you can order ZCW and ZMP you just don't get the heated steering wheel

Where is that info from? I've driven the M Sport and it had the heated steering wheel so I'm confused as to where this information is stated.

bren · 04-05-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KingX

Where is that info from? I've driven the M Sport and it had the heated steering wheel so I'm confused as to where this information is stated.

I suspect he's confusing it with the e90 3 series where that was true.

KingX · 04-05-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bren

I suspect he's confusing it with the e90 3 series where that was true.

That's what I thought. I remember reading about the issue with the E90.

There are guys/gals on here with the M Sport and with heated steering. Even the '13 catalog shows it can be ordered together. Plus as i said above I drove the M Sport with heated steering.

I guess it will be a pleasant surprise for BSM328xi when he gets his

egal · 04-05-2012, 10:06 AM

I just ordered 2013 with ZMP, ZCW, ZCX. It works.

Fryguy29 · 04-05-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KingX

That's what I thought. I remember reading about the issue with the E90.

There are guys/gals on here with the M Sport and with heated steering. Even the '13 catalog shows it can be ordered together. Plus as i said above I drove the M Sport with heated steering.

I guess it will be a pleasant surprise for BSM328xi when he gets his

I can guarantee you can get Msport with the heated steering wheel. I have it on my 35i. It is by far the finest steering wheel I have ever put my hands around, for what it's worth. I drove a rental this weekend and really noticed the difference.

alexg62 · 04-05-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KingX

The issue then isn't the ZCW and ZMP that you stated earlier

since you can have those together.

The issue is the ZCW and the Driver Assistance Package can't be together.

I guess you can't have cold weather and driver assistance in at the same time. Driver Assistance was the only package I didn't add in my build because I didn't see the need for it and what do you know it worked out for the best because I much rather have the cold weather package where I live than the driver assistance any day

BMWUSA site is strange. Try ZCW and Driver assist without ZMP. It works. Then try to select ZMP and ZCW is unchecked.

BSM328xi · 04-05-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KingX

That's what I thought. I remember reading about the issue with the E90.

There are guys/gals on here with the M Sport and with heated steering. Even the '13 catalog shows it can be ordered together. Plus as i said above I drove the M Sport with heated steering.

I guess it will be a pleasant surprise for BSM328xi when he gets his

Surprise ruined. Yes, on the E90 you could not get both. I love the heated wheel and I'm thrilled to have it on the X3! Thanks for the heads up!

KingX · 04-05-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg62

BMWUSA site is strange. Try ZCW and Driver assist without ZMP. It works. Then try to select ZMP and ZCW is unchecked.

Basically: If you pick M Sport you can only have one or the other i.e. cold weather OR driver assist but NOT both. That's the way the cookie crumbles at bmwusa.com

alexg62 · 04-05-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fryguy29

I can guarantee you can get Msport with the heated steering wheel. I have it on my 35i. It is by far the finest steering wheel I have ever put my hands around, for what it's worth. I drove a rental this weekend and really noticed the difference.

Can you post a picture of your wheel with heater on/off switch.

Thanks

bren · 04-05-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg62

Can you post a picture of your wheel with heater on/off switch.

Thanks

I'm sure you can find the part number for the heated m wheel on realoem.com. It's absolutely available unless they changed something on the 13's.

Does the driver assist package include the vibrating, wake your dumb ass up, steering wheel? Maybe that's to blame.

alexg62 · 04-06-2012, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bren

I'm sure you can find the part number for the heated m wheel on realoem.com. It's absolutely available unless they changed something on the 13's.

Does the driver assist package include the vibrating, wake your dumb ass up, steering wheel? Maybe that's to blame.

You right. It does include that. Perhaps I can settle on just Head-up display as standalone option and forget about other two (lane departure and automatic high beam).

bren · 04-06-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg62

You right. It does include that. Perhaps I can settle on just Head-up display as standalone option and forget about other two (lane departure and automatic high beam).

Did they fix the head-up display so that you can finally see it with polarized sunglasses?

alexg62 · 04-06-2012, 03:06 PM

The best explanation so far was found on carsolutions site:

DRIVER ASSISTANCE PKG
-inc: automatic high beams, lane departure warning, heads up display
(N/A w/ZCW Cold Weather Pkg & ZMP M Sport Pkg in combination) (REQ: ZPP Premium Pkg)
Code: ZDA

I guess I have to decide between "Heated Wheel" vs "Automatic High Beam and Lane Departure Warning".

The rest of the options I get as standalone.

Any recommendations?

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alexg62 Private 19 Rep 73 Posts Drives: X3 35i M-Sport Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	You can't select ZCW with ZMP on bmwusa. I tried it again today with 2013 model. Dealer is telling the same.
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alexg62 Private 19 Rep 73 Posts Drives: X3 35i M-Sport Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	The best explanation so far was found on carsolutions site: DRIVER ASSISTANCE PKG -inc: automatic high beams, lane departure warning, heads up display (N/A w/ZCW Cold Weather Pkg & ZMP M Sport Pkg in combination) (REQ: ZPP Premium Pkg) Code: ZDA I guess I have to decide between "Heated Wheel" vs "Automatic High Beam and Lane Departure Warning". The rest of the options I get as standalone. Any recommendations?
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