08-15-2011, 08:50 AM | #1 |
Private First Class
11
Rep 116
Posts |
Whats the deal with Diesel????
I have seen more people going with diesel engines in the us.. i know they are more popular in other out US, but why..
I wouldnt ask with a Ford F-250 cuz in know what they can do and i want one, but why in smaller cars?? Compared to Gas... reliability?? performance?? What?? |
08-15-2011, 09:49 AM | #3 |
Second Lieutenant
12
Rep 208
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-15-2011, 10:00 AM | #4 |
Colonel
541
Rep 2,073
Posts |
Diesel & petrol (gas) drive differently. With petrol it's more about power and response. With diesel it's more about a huge lump of torque so the car goes fast without it feeling as though you're working the engine hard. This is more a European view, a big US V8 won't be like a BMW straight 6 so it depends what you comparing with.
On a track day you'd want a petrol car whereas drive A to B normal roads a diesel car can be really fun and easy to drive. Last edited by clivem2; 08-15-2011 at 10:10 AM.. |
Appreciate
0
|
08-15-2011, 10:19 AM | #6 |
Private
11
Rep 78
Posts |
In the UK it's all about economy.
My 20d is hardly fast (though it accelerates well 20-60mph) but at 135p per UK litre you just can't afford to run a big petrol car here unless you are very wealthy. Most of my driving averages around 20mph other than motorway runs so it's just fine for me. |
Appreciate
0
|
08-15-2011, 10:29 AM | #7 |
(Sold) '00 M Roadster '06 M Coupe '16 M3 '20 X3MC
1572
Rep 2,592
Posts |
I think Diesel is cheaper than gas/petrol in Europe as well, not seasonally cheaper like in the US, but cheaper all the time, so better MPG, cheaper, and similar performance, why not get a Diesel,
Diesel would decrease in price in the US if we adopted it more, if even 15% of the cars sold here were Diesel we would see a nice decrease. But no, we are going the electric route! My wife works at Walgreens and keeps telling me about the Electric initiative to have electric charging stations at almost every store by 20XX... So you can get your prescription, photos, milk and gas all in one spot I don't mind electric but they just aren't worth it right now and won't be unless some breakthrough technology comes our way, Diesel is the way to go. |
Appreciate
0
|
08-15-2011, 12:16 PM | #8 | |
Brigadier General
91
Rep 3,855
Posts |
Quote:
The main reason people buy diesels here is better mpg so cheaper fuel per mile but there is also an impact on tax because you pay more road tax the more CO2 per km your car emits. On company car tax CO2 makes a big difference too
__________________
F25 xDrive20d SE __ professional multimedia package | dynamic package | climate package | 309s | xline | xenons | electric seats | folding mirrors | business speakers |
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-15-2011, 12:36 PM | #9 |
Colonel
541
Rep 2,073
Posts |
Yes, I suppose we should differentiate between smaller diesels more for economy / low CO2 vs those for performance and some economy / low CO2. Even so, the small diesels still have great torque vs petrol, though less responsiveness. The torque is addictive, the poorer responsiveness is not.
__________________
Current: G01 M40i Silver / Tartufo
Previous: E30 318iS, E39 520i 523i 523i, E46 vert 330i 330i, E93 vert 335i, F25 30D 35D |
Appreciate
0
|
08-15-2011, 12:38 PM | #10 |
Colonel
381
Rep 2,588
Posts |
My X5 35d is incredible and I would quickly buy other diesel BMWs if there were more availability here in the USofA. I am sold: quiet, clean, no diesel smell, crazy torque/acceleration, and truly great gas mileage!!!
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-15-2011, 01:55 PM | #11 |
Private First Class
23
Rep 147
Posts |
The break even point of the fuel savings vs the additional cost of the diesel engine is far out in the future. For example using the base prices of a 328i, 335i, and 335d; and the average annual fuel cost from the fuelecomony.gov website it will take 4 years to break even vs a 335i and 18 years compared to a 328i.
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-15-2011, 02:04 PM | #12 | |
(Sold) '00 M Roadster '06 M Coupe '16 M3 '20 X3MC
1572
Rep 2,592
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|