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Phone manufacturers might have decided it was risky to adopt an incomplete specification that could change. This is mostly speculation on my part.... Sucks for the consumer, they should just get on and finish it! Last edited by pault; 05-03-2011 at 12:47 PM.. Reason: Spelling! |
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05-04-2011, 02:05 PM | #26 | |
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I spent most of yesterday trying to figure out whether Apple intends to add MAP to the iphone and why they have not done it yet. It's not just a big issue with BMW customers, Ford and Lincoln people can't use most of the MS Sync technology either. I added the BMW apps for one reason only: The back to my car tracking. I tend to not pay attention to where I park. There are lots of GPS tracking apps for the iphone, but you have to remember to set them before you leave the car. Now, if I understand this correctly... The IPhone will send a signal to the satellite and the satellite to the car. The position of the car is then sent back to to the iphone. This is so useful to me. But here are my lingering questions: 1) Is the snap in adapter required or can I connect the iphone to the car and BMW Apps via the Apple USB cable? 2) Exactly what features will be available with the snap in adapter, that I would not have with the the cable alone? |
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05-04-2011, 02:41 PM | #27 |
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I'm not sure it has anything to do with MAP. The iPhone lacks even the most basic Bluetooth file transfer functionality that has been on other phones for 7-8 years.
Re. BMW Remote for finding your car, you don't need a snap-in adapter or BMW apps. You need a BMW Assist subscription and pro nav (biggest nav screen). It's limited to 1500m for privacy reasons
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05-04-2011, 05:10 PM | #30 |
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Found this out on an X5 forum
"Combox controller is the integration between TCU, ULF and Ipod. It makes it all work much better than the old setup. You can now stream music from your phone via bluetooth and still use the steering wheel controls to switch songs, and if you use the USB cable you get full access with full description and album artwork etc. " |
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This is the part I still don't completely understand. |
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05-04-2011, 08:14 PM | #32 |
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I'm with you on that, it continues to be confusing. The smartphone integration is included at zero cost when you added BMW Apps. It might be the smartphone integration remains to provide a bracket to clip the phone into. Perhaps some folks like that option, it does look good and nice and tidy. Personally I'd be happy to just have a cable to plug into the phone.
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05-04-2011, 08:22 PM | #33 | |
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I have an iPhone. However, I virtualy never listen to it as an iPod. Between my CD's, terrestrial radio, and satellite radio, I don't see the need to listen to Pandora or my iPod while I drive. Plus, do I really need to see album art while I drive? I don't see the appeal. Maybe I just haven't gotten with the program yet (kind of like how I am not on facebook). |
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05-05-2011, 09:38 AM | #34 |
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My 2 cents: I missed out on 6NR by a few weeks but am picking up the media adapter for the iPhone4 tomorrow (finally came in after ordering early March). Primary reason is I've noticed I don't use the white USB cable nearly as much due to inconvenience - takes too long to fish it out from under the cradle, plug in the phone and then let it float around on top of the cradle arm. A snap-n-go adapter seems much more user friendly and certainly looks cleaner.
I'm also going to remain somewhat optimistic that Apple will ultimately give in to the ever-growing car industry tech needs regarding Bluetooth. However, after reading a few posts here I'm now second guessing that this would just be a software update at some point. Having my work email and calendar available on the iDrive screen far outweighs all existing technology available in my car so fingers remained crossed. Plugging an iPod into the USB and leaving in the car is an excellent alternative but for some reason, mine won't connect (car doesn't "find" it). I synced the iPod to ensure the software was current but no luck. The iPod is several years old so for now I'm guessing that's the problem. Anyone have any troubleshooting ideas? One final comment on the car's hard drive that I think I posted elsewhere. While not perfect, you can get playlists loaded separately by using different memory sticks. Then just rename each folder accordingly (playlist name) and select 'random' playback under options. Somewhat circumvents the naming flaw in the program. Just wish I could make 'random' the default but seems I have to reselect this from the options menu every time I access one of the folders/playlists. |
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I think I'm going to opt for a 32GB USB flash drive with most of my music on it and leave it plugged into the car. You can get a cheap one for £20 - it doesn't need to be fast. The iPhone 4 cradle I'll then use for somewhere handy to keep the phone and for recharging. Agree on the white lead. I've also damaged one already by closing the armrest on it accidentally. One drawback on keeping the iPhone in the cradle is that I close the armrest and then it's out of sight, out of mind and leave it in the car. Hopefully I'll stop doing this soon!
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05-10-2011, 10:51 AM | #36 | |
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https://www.bluetooth.org/Technical/...ns/adopted.htm If you click on the MAP .pdf document, it says this: "V10r00 2009-06-04 Adopted by the Bluetooth SIG Board of Directors" So it was adopted in June 2009. |
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05-10-2011, 11:02 AM | #37 | |
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And yes, you DO need to see album art. It is very cool in the car. I keep a USB stick that can hold 8 GBs of data in my car (always plugged into the USB port in my center console. Its great to see album art on all the songs. Here is what it looks like on my BMW: ![]() And without split screen engaged: ![]() Now who wouldn't want that -- whether via an iPhone or USB stick? Last edited by caesardog; 05-10-2011 at 11:07 AM.. |
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Funny, but between looking at album art, reading emails and texts, and watching a Simpsons episode on the screen, does anyone watch the road when they drive anymore?
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05-10-2011, 11:42 AM | #39 | |
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And I think the video only works when the car is stopped -- not sure about the iPod out. But I know a DVD will only work when the car is in park. |
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05-10-2011, 09:48 PM | #40 |
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How did you navigate to that display? Can't reproduce it on mine. Confused and frustrated!
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So, no real explanation as to why MAP is not a widely adopted protocol on phones.... |
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05-11-2011, 06:37 AM | #42 | |
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I actually like the earlier software, where in the split screen example I showed, you would see a small version of the album art on the left side (main part of the screen) and then the normal size album art in the split screen portion under entertainment details. Now, the small album art is not displayed no matter what. When was your car built? Also, do you see small album art? Last edited by caesardog; 05-11-2011 at 06:42 AM.. |
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Mine was built end of January. I've never seen album art on the left. Only small one two the right in the split screen. If the main screen is in a playlist (vice Nav, etc) it stays a playlist. No album art. Older software, eh?
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If you see album art in the split screen, you should also see it on the main/full screen when you turn off split screen and navigate to your playlist and then select the song itself. |
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