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I know....I'm only bustin b@lls!!! lmao classic
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I hear ya and agree on all points for sure.... the crazy thing is though that most....probably 90+% of the AWD owning public have no idea really how AWD works. I got into an argument once with my brother-in-law over the fact this he thought his wife's honda CRV had the same AWD capabilities of my subaru...then I showed him a test lab video of cars like the CRV/Rav4/chevy etc on rollers and not able to do a dam thing b/c the spinning fronts could not transfer power. And I think 1/2 of the subaru owners out there think that AWD for subaru means that all wheels are getting power all the time (like in a truck with locking differentials etc...) obviously not the case..and in fact look how complicated it can be...subaru has 4 different implementations of their own AWD system depending on the car/drivetrain setup: http://drive2.subaru.com/Win09/Win09_ItsWhatMakes.htm And on top of that....the STI is completely customizable per the driver...crazy! And let's continue...on top of that cars lilke the Nissan GTR or Mitso EVO get completely overlooked (by most) b/c they are not nice friendly every day driver cars like a subie or BMW or Audi...however on the track these cars would torch most others b/c the systems are so wildly superior. I have a hard time posting this link but take a look...it really shows the unbelievable awesome power of the EVO.... I totally would have bought one but I'm way to loyal to my Subie! |
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05-22-2011, 07:56 AM | #51 |
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Fantastic thread, everything make sense on DHP etc except for this comment, not convinced Quattro is better than the new xDrive, Landrover yes.
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05-22-2011, 08:09 AM | #53 | |
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I also think I agree with you, however Audi's system is pretty d@m good....that being said, I think what BMW has done with their x-drive over the past decade is amazing, and I'd agree that what they achieve in a non-mechanicaly controlled system may be superior to Audi..I believe Audi has a new Quattro coming out so the debate will roll on...right now I like x-drive I have to say. However...and unfortunately I'm so biased with AWD that I end up making more enemies than friends with AWD conversations... BMW will never be in the class of a EVO, STI or GT-R...and I'm not sure it is supposed to, but the experience in an STI or EVO is such a monumential difference comparied to x-drive that it isn't fair. And unfortunately most people would never experience this b/c unless you are driving one of these cars around a track, the differences will not become so obvious. (like in this video) I've had the amazing opty to be able to drive my STI around Lime Rock (in CT) and I can tell you that once you take a car like that around a track like that you view of AWD changes...and yes I've taken x-drive cars (335xi) around Lime Rock and it would be like a cyclist trying to win the tour de france on a BMX bike. Sorry I hate to flame but my experiences just make me biased. I wish we could all get together for a day, rent a track and an EVO....some of us would look like this: and others like this: |
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Hey I'm quite normal!!! The mad factor only comes in play every so often...you know with type A people there's a thin line between fear and fun! True funny story for you..... So my brother has a stick shift older nissan sentra ...1.8...very safe car to learn stick in so I borrowed it for a weekend to teach my wife...all went well and she actually did well. So one day she wakes up and says "you know what...driving the stick in your brother's car was fun, maybe if you want I'll try the STI today..I mean I did good in your brother's car". True quote and exact...now the err of my ways was that all I hear out of my wife's mouth was "try the STI today". The kids happened to be at my in-laws so I grabbed the keys like we were two teenagers dating and said "LET'S GO" So dummy me, in my excitement, I wasn't thinking of the obvious... I start the drive, showing her everything and remind her of everything and I drive to an area that will make her feel 'safe' as there's not a lot of traffic and the roads are nice and open. So....what happens?....the test drive lasted all of 3 gears and about 30 seconds. (with most of the 30 seconds cruising to a stop). Obviously the 1.8 sentra has a slightly different feel so what does she do....she starts the STI off nice off the line, but proceeds to punch it and she starts to scream...I say "get off the gas or shift" (dumb @ss me didn't say brake)..so what does she do....she shifts and proceeds to stomp on the gas pedal like her foot was stuck to the pedal (to this day I can't figure out if she power shifted but I think she did...pretty cool actually). As we get well out of second gear she starts to say "Dave what do I do???" and I watch the needle get into speeds that I realize have a point of no return. I yell "STOP" and she proceeds to take her foot off the gas and stomp the brake like she was the gas....after about 2.3 seconds I have I say "TAKE YOUR FOOT OF THE BRAKE!!!" (thank God she didn't go back to the gas) I then have her prss the clutch and we just coasted to a stop that way. Needless to say, that was the first and only time she's ever driven the car..... |
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06-05-2011, 04:55 PM | #56 |
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What happens if you get the 35i without SAP or DHP? Do you still get the option of choosing Normal, Sport or Sport+? or does it not come with that option?
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06-05-2011, 06:10 PM | #57 |
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07-10-2011, 09:41 AM | #58 |
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what does 3.5 w/ SAP and no DHP give you? My idrive has drivetrain and chassis for sports mode configuration. What does the chassis setting do given i dont have DHP?
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07-19-2011, 12:10 AM | #59 |
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Notice that BMW has been VERY CAREFUL with their wordings. It said "chassis" setting & not "suspension" setting. Chassis setting is anything that alters handling characteristics, mainly stability control settings & also steering assistance.
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