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Originally Posted by Kermit

Some pics of the copper. In all but direct sunlight it's a lovely dark, well, copper. It complements the mocha really well (which looks a bit lighter than it really is in these pics). In direct sunlight it brings out the sparkles in it.

Certainly a very classic and well matched look.

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Originally Posted by bounderboy

Moved to 25th - think 17th was arrival at dealer/distributor date... might get a couple of days sooner.. but hope 25th is latest... quite ready for this now...

Lets hope it's a case of under promise and over deliver from your broker.

[bounderboy]

Originally Posted by WatchThis!

Lets hope it's a case of under promise and over deliver from your broker.

Fingers crossed.. good to see Mocha and copper Kermit as that's what I have too..

I thought copper and Mocha sounded like they should be a good pairing..

Oh and I have been waiting just over 6mths too.. got this for four years but will be ordering new car at 3yrs 6 months next time.. though that seems a long time away ! Probably get a hover car...

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Originally Posted by bounderboy

Fingers crossed.. good to see Mocha and copper Kermit as that's what I have too..

I thought copper and Mocha sounded like they should be a good pairing..

Oh and I have been waiting just over 6mths too.. got this for four years but will be ordering new car at 3yrs 6 months next time.. though that seems a long time away ! Probably get a hover car...

Depending on where you are in the UK, you might need one in 4 years time.

[Akers]

Originally Posted by Andy_o

Agree, seems an eternity ... Four months since I ordered ... Maybe another four months to wait

Not good not good at all !

Seems a very long wait, ordered mine in mid June production this wk, expected at the dealership in 6wks just before Xmas.hope arrives on time.

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Originally Posted by Akers

Seems a very long wait, ordered mine in mid June production this wk, expected at the dealership in 6wks just before Xmas.hope arrives on time.

Have you had a recent update / VIN, or was this the info at the time of ordering?

[Andy_o]

The mocha with the copper certainly looks very good in those pictures. I originally ordered that combo but chickened out of the chocolate seats .. I saw the brown seats in a skoda yeti which just didn't look right at all and they put me off. Would love to see it in real life

I have seen a couple of "browns" in the 5 series which look good although they seemed a bit brighter.

All the pictures of the copper I have seen look very good .... It seems the first time I see it will be when mine arrives

[Akers]

Originally Posted by WatchThis!

Have you had a recent update / VIN, or was this the info at the time of ordering?

VIN will only be available once the production finishes hope I'll have this next wk. I have been changing options and model right up to 3 weeks ago ( started with SE, then changed to xline and finally changed to msport). Took a risk with the last change as dealer said the order might go back 8wks at least, fortunately no change to production date and delivery, he was surprised as well.

[Andy_o]

Originally Posted by Akers

VIN will only be available once the production finishes hope I'll have this next wk. I have been changing options and model right up to 3 weeks ago ( started with SE, then changed to xline and finally changed to msport). Took a risk with the last change as dealer said the order might go back 8wks at least, fortunately no change to production date and delivery, he was surprised as well.

That's interesting as I have been toying with changing from xline to msport .. I've worked it out as only £1100 different between my xline spec and msport which with discount and added value on gmfv shouldn't cost me that much more per month

Did you swop like for like spec or continue upgrade ?

Mine should be built in February so still has some time to make changes

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Originally Posted by Akers

VIN will only be available once the production finishes hope I'll have this next wk. I have been changing options and model right up to 3 weeks ago ( started with SE, then changed to xline and finally changed to msport). Took a risk with the last change as dealer said the order might go back 8wks at least, fortunately no change to production date and delivery, he was surprised as well.

Sounds like it's all under control and it'll be here before the year is out. My dealer was very nervous about changes coming up to the build week, so I didn't chance my arm. Also, the build week changed all by itself to next year, but a phone call or two managed to get it back.

[Akers]

Originally Posted by Andy_o

That's interesting as I have been toying with changing from xline to msport .. I've worked it out as only 1100 different between my xline spec and msport which with discount and added value on gmfv shouldn't cost me that much more per month

Did you swop like for like spec or continue upgrade ?

Mine should be built in February so still has some time to make changes

Also had a similar difference but had to pay for the colour, as only white is free and didn't want an all white car (my interior also white).The GFV on the SE was 16,800 I haven't had the number for the msport yet, looking at other sites the GFV on msport is about 19k .Use below formulae on excel to calculate monthly payments.

=pmt(apr%/12,duration in months,value of credit, - GFV,0)

Note GFV is a negative number.

[Akers]

Originally Posted by WatchThis!

Sounds like it's all under control and it'll be here before the year is out. My dealer was very nervous about changes coming up to the build week, so I didn't chance my arm. Also, the build week changed all by itself to next year, but a phone call or two managed to get it back.

One of the members here think it's Barcelona pointed me to the BMW manufacturing website which states that it's so flexible you make changes up to 6 days before production. I contacted BMW online chat to confirm this unfortunately they have have no clue and insisted I can't make changes without significantly affecting lead time.

Extract from the website

"Freedom of choice – it’s the very heart of the BMW production process. BMW produces at least 80 percent of its vehicles to customer order. When you stop to consider all the unique combinations of exterior and interior colors, engines, options, and upgrades available, it’s enough to tax the imagination. In fact, it’s been said that we could run two shifts a day, seven days a week, for up to six months and never build the same vehicle twice. Perhaps more intriguing is the intricate and intelligent process by which it all comes together: coordinated sequencing of parts and precise engineering that is so unique and so flexible it allows you to make changes to your automobile up until six days before it is built."

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Originally Posted by Akers

One of the members here think it's Barcelona pointed me to the BMW manufacturing website which states that it's so flexible you make changes up to 6 days before production. I contacted BMW online chat to confirm this unfortunately they have have no clue and insisted I can't make changes without significantly affecting lead time.

Extract from the website

"Freedom of choice – it’s the very heart of the BMW production process. BMW produces at least 80 percent of its vehicles to customer order. When you stop to consider all the unique combinations of exterior and interior colors, engines, options, and upgrades available, it’s enough to tax the imagination. In fact, it’s been said that we could run two shifts a day, seven days a week, for up to six months and never build the same vehicle twice. Perhaps more intriguing is the intricate and intelligent process by which it all comes together: coordinated sequencing of parts and precise engineering that is so unique and so flexible it allows you to make changes to your automobile up until six days before it is built."

All that says is that you can't change the configuration within six days from build date, which in a JIT manufacturing plant has to be the case.
I doubt they'd go for something like:
"....so unique and so flexible it allows you to make changes to your automobile up until six days before it is built, and we'll even press the button on our patented build date generator free of charge leaving you banging your head against a wall as you try and work out why adding a luggage net adds a further 3 months to the already substantial wait. However, if you change to a colour combination that really doesn't work, or forget to order any seats, we'll build it the next day"

[TuffLittleUnit]

Originally Posted by WatchThis!

All that says is that you can't change the configuration within six days from build date, which in a JIT manufacturing plant has to be the case.
I doubt they'd go for something like:
"....so unique and so flexible it allows you to make changes to your automobile up until six days before it is built, and we'll even press the button on our patented build date generator free of charge leaving you banging your head against a wall as you try and work out why adding a luggage net adds a further 3 months to the already substantial wait. However, if you change to a colour combination that really doesn't work, or forget to order any seats, we'll build it the next day"

[cumbrianlad]

Originally Posted by WatchThis! View Post
All that says is that you can't change the configuration within six days from build date, which in a JIT manufacturing plant has to be the case.
I doubt they'd go for something like:
"....so unique and so flexible it allows you to make changes to your automobile up until six days before it is built, and we'll even press the button on our patented build date generator free of charge leaving you banging your head against a wall as you try and work out why adding a luggage net adds a further 3 months to the already substantial wait. However, if you change to a colour combination that really doesn't work, or forget to order any seats, we'll build it the next day"

So how come, when they give you a delivery date and then find they cannot supply a part, you specify an alternative part months ahead of that date, your delivery date goes out a further four months?? Hmm. Don't think I'd be changing anything within a month of build date unless I was happy to accept delay.

[Akers]

I can consider myself lucky as I changed from xline to msport and colour on the 10th October original build wk 46 (this wk) no change to this, I had my VIN from the dealer this morning.

[halfalife]

Feeling pretty pi$$ed off with BMW at the moment. My dealer advised me to ring BMW customer line about the 607 debacle. Spoke to a young lad who could only apologise and nothing else. I was embarrassed for him. I told him by advertising the car with the 607 wheels and then not being able to supply them, they are mis-selling and falsly advertising the product. Just got fobbed off. So, I rang the dealers and spoke to the sales manager and explained my deep unstatisfaction of the lack of customer service and the fact that when I'm spending 50k on a car, I should get the wheels that is supposed to come with it and told him I am seriousley considering cancelling the order (which I am). Hopefully should get some feedback today....after all, they are plenty of other cars out there !

[Andy_o]

Originally Posted by halfalife

Feeling pretty pi$$ed off with BMW at the moment. My dealer advised me to ring BMW customer line about the 607 debacle. Spoke to a young lad who could only apologise and nothing else. I was embarrassed for him. I told him by advertising the car with the 607 wheels and then not being able to supply them, they are mis-selling and falsly advertising the product. Just got fobbed off. So, I rang the dealers and spoke to the sales manager and explained my deep unstatisfaction of the lack of customer service and the fact that when I'm spending 50k on a car, I should get the wheels that is supposed to come with it and told him I am seriousley considering cancelling the order (which I am). Hopefully should get some feedback today....after all, they are plenty of other cars out there !

It is pretty poor .. I have now asked my sales guy three times if my car is affected ... All he says is .. Not at this time but if it does become affected I'll let you know ...

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Originally Posted by Andy_o

It is pretty poor .. I have now asked my sales guy three times if my car is affected ... All he says is .. Not at this time but if it does become affected I'll let you know ...

Not even TVR was this hit'n'miss.

[gazzer666]

Originally Posted by halfalife

Feeling pretty pi$$ed off with BMW at the moment. My dealer advised me to ring BMW customer line about the 607 debacle. Spoke to a young lad who could only apologise and nothing else. I was embarrassed for him. I told him by advertising the car with the 607 wheels and then not being able to supply them, they are mis-selling and falsly advertising the product. Just got fobbed off. So, I rang the dealers and spoke to the sales manager and explained my deep unstatisfaction of the lack of customer service and the fact that when I'm spending 50k on a car, I should get the wheels that is supposed to come with it and told him I am seriousley considering cancelling the order (which I am). Hopefully should get some feedback today....after all, they are plenty of other cars out there !

Basically what I put in my formal letter to them.

Misleading advertising, bait and switch, no communication, legal proceedings to follow.....

Had a holding reply from them saying they are investigating the matter for me. Not holding my breath

[bounderboy]

Originally Posted by Andy_o

It is pretty poor .. I have now asked my sales guy three times if my car is affected ... All he says is .. Not at this time but if it does become affected I'll let you know ...

Everyone has been told different things but BMW Fleet UK told my broker that the wheels were permanently discontinued.. Don't believe BMW knows arse from elbow on this. But I would be very surprised if not all X-Lines were affected..

Only offer I am getting is a cargo mat and winter interior mats. If the deal wasn't so good I would have thought of cancelling too..

[gazzer666]

Well had an official response from BMW regarding the X-Line 607 wheels.

I am sorry to learn of your disappointment with regards to the alloy wheels fitted to your BMW X3 xDrive20d xLine. I can certainly understand the frustration this must have caused you, especially as you upgraded to xLine trim, for the alloy wheels fitted as standard with this option.

I can confirm that, due to ongoing supply issues regarding the 18” Y-Spoke style alloy wheels (607), these have been restricted throughout 2014. I can advise, this option has since been removed from November 2014 and is no longer available for customers to order. The BMW UK Sales Office communicated to all BMW Approved Retailers the issues regarding this option, therefore, each Centre was required to amend the order should the 605 style have been requested. Two alternatives have been given to all Retailers which include the 18” Double-Spoke (605) which is free of charge, or 19” Y-Spoke (608) for an £800 upgrade. It was advised that all Retailers were to contact their customers regarding this option.

So basically tough luck or go order an Audi


ps. load of c*ck about November as the UK configurator still shows the 607 wheels as default. Obviously still happy to charge the full amount for the X-Line trim then.