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      07-31-2017, 04:09 PM   #23
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I just can't get behind the X4 & X6 styling. Never mind the X3 &X5 overlap, it's just such an odd design I just don't get it. It sacrifices so much utility to appear more sporty and ends up failing on both the sport/utility fronts.
Reminds me of the Acura ZDX. Let's take an MDX and see how useless we can make it.
And the Honda Crosstour. I understand style is subjective but man these are ugly.
Don't even get me started on that thing.

Just proves, suburban middle aged white guy will buy anything with a Honda badge. Comes complete with matching sandals and white tube socks.
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I really can't stand the "wagons and hatches don't work because we never try them" mentality.

How is there enough resources to have 8 different crossover SUVs which must leach off each others markets and no performance hatch/wagons in the US.

1 different offering surely couldn't hurt anyone???

I feel like BMW is no longer setting the bar, and they are just following MB further down its own diluted rabbit hole.
Mercedes followed BMW with the GLE/GLC Coupes.
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I really can't stand the "wagons and hatches don't work because we never try them" mentality.

How is there enough resources to have 8 different crossover SUVs which must leach off each others markets and no performance hatch/wagons in the US.

1 different offering surely couldn't hurt anyone???

I feel like BMW is no longer setting the bar, and they are just following MB further down its own diluted rabbit hole.
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Mercedes followed BMW with the GLE/GLC Coupes.
brianeck and @cbertels I believe may want to check the history books. Who started the SAV/crossover craze again... ?
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I just can't get behind the X4 & X6 styling. Never mind the X3 &X5 overlap, it's just such an odd design I just don't get it. It sacrifices so much utility to appear more sporty and ends up failing on both the sport/utility fronts.
My thought exactly ?these SAV coupes are so stupid
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I did some quick stalking and I agree...sexy GT.
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Reflection in the lower left hand corner. Looks like a pup.
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Reflection in the lower left hand corner. Looks like a pup.
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I really can't stand the "wagons and hatches don't work because we never try them" mentality.

How is there enough resources to have 8 different crossover SUVs which must leach off each others markets and no performance hatch/wagons in the US.

1 different offering surely couldn't hurt anyone???

I feel like BMW is no longer setting the bar, and they are just following MB further down its own diluted rabbit hole.
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Mercedes followed BMW with the GLE/GLC Coupes.
brianeck and @cbertels I believe may want to check the history books. Who started the SAV/crossover craze again... ?
I don't care who started the SAV nonsense. I'll gladly accept anyone's suggestions on who that was.

They still look terrible. I'm frankly not sure what's worse. The first one to do it, step back, and say "that looks good let's make it," or the follower that said "hey, those ugly turds sell, we should make some too. "

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I really can't stand the "wagons and hatches don't work because we never try them" mentality.

How is there enough resources to have 8 different crossover SUVs which must leach off each others markets and no performance hatch/wagons in the US.

1 different offering surely couldn't hurt anyone???

I feel like BMW is no longer setting the bar, and they are just following MB further down its own diluted rabbit hole.
Yea I mean...wagons don't sell. It's not just BMW, no one makes them anymore.

SUV profit margins are high and they sell. They basically are propping up the entire auto industry at this point. We're lucky they still make sedans.
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Let's see it without all the stripes and swirls. It annoys me so much when car companies do this. I'm waiting on passing judgement until I'll see it fully unveiled.
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Too bad it'll have the same front end as the X3..the rear looks promising.
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I really can't stand the "wagons and hatches don't work because we never try them" mentality.

How is there enough resources to have 8 different crossover SUVs which must leach off each others markets and no performance hatch/wagons in the US.

1 different offering surely couldn't hurt anyone???

I feel like BMW is no longer setting the bar, and they are just following MB further down its own diluted rabbit hole.
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Mercedes followed BMW with the GLE/GLC Coupes.
brianeck and @cbertels I believe may want to check the history books. Who started the SAV/crossover craze again... ?
I don't care who started the SAV nonsense. I'll gladly accept anyone's suggestions on who that was.

They still look terrible. I'm frankly not sure what's worse. The first one to do it, step back, and say "that looks good let's make it," or the follower that said "hey, those ugly turds sell, we should make some too. "

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Sounds like a personal problem...

Quick... abandon manufacturer ! Set your sights on a purist manufacturer that doesn't make these SAV/SUV abominations. Like Porsche ... oh wait ... like Tesla... oops .. not them either ... well.. good luck anyway
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Not at all my point. BMW makes great cars and some really hideous ones. So do many manufacturers. Point is i voiced my opinion as we all do. If BMW made less awful cars, I'd like that. Zero regrets with the F80.
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Where are the fat fender flares????? This looks like a base X4 to me, just with quad exhaust pipes. No aggressive stance, nothing at all that makes it look like a true M model.

Oh, and it is ugly as sin to boot.
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The X4 proportions on current gen are imo off. It's not wide enough where as the X6 is easier on the eyes.

Always like the styling of these having owned X6 50i and X6 35i too. The 50i was a beast and sounded awesome right from the factory.

Wife has X4 28i and loves it. N20 is perfect for her.

Its certainly a polarizing design. Obviously enough like it to the point where MB is trying to get some of the biz too.
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