Year 2021, how many miles on your N20?

Taoster · 01-24-2021, 08:32 PM

it's been 10 years since the F25 N20 X3 was released on the market. How many miles on your N20? I have mine in the shop getting the timing chain and oil pump chain replaced, now i'm contemplating if i should keep it or sell it. I currently have 93k on my 2013.

pungo · 01-24-2021, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Taoster

it's been 10 years since the F25 N20 X3 was released on the market.

Really, I didn't think the N20 was offered in the F25 until 2013

romero1990 · 01-24-2021, 11:09 PM

mine is definitely on the lower side. 17' at close to 50k

shoman24v · 01-25-2021, 07:07 AM

My 2017 has 37,000 miles. lol, probably not the car you want listed on this post

dtox9 · 01-25-2021, 09:01 AM

my '17 is @ 77K miles...

Opie55 · 01-25-2021, 09:03 AM

2014 at about 54k. Zero issues. Car has never had anything but oil, filters, tires and one set of brakes. Not a single "repair."

jsublime · 01-25-2021, 10:29 AM

Should hit a milestone this week... 149xxx.

romero1990 · 01-25-2021, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Opie55

2014 at about 54k. Zero issues. Car has never had anything but oil, filters, tires and one set of brakes. Not a single "repair."

when did you change the brakes?

KC87ZB · 01-25-2021, 01:24 PM

I am third owner of a 2013 N20 X3. Previous owner suffered a catastrophic engine failure, worked a 60/40 deal with BMW and replaced the engine. Then sold the vehicle to me. Completely crazy decision as he invested the money for the repair and then lost faith. But the repair was done.

Similar to the OP here, you are replacing the timing chain and oil pump chain. Just do the other maintenance (coolant pump, thermostat, trans fluid, diff fluids, transfer case fluid, ...) and keep it. You don't have to worry as much about a timing chain/oil starvation issue. I would think if you had planned to sell it you should have done that before you did the timing chain.

I heard from BMW that the oil pump has also been modified since 2013. If you are already there...

Opie55 · 01-25-2021, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by romero1990

when did you change the brakes?

They were done before I bought it CPO at 34k.

Vikingstaff · 01-25-2021, 09:56 PM

2nd owner of a ‘17. 24.7k miles.

thenew3 · 01-26-2021, 10:30 AM

Wife's 2016 X3, took Delivery November 2015, currently has just under 32k miles on it. Put less than 800 miles on it over the last 10 months due to WFH.

iagafoor · 01-26-2021, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan13X3

I am third owner of a 2013 N20 X3. Previous owner suffered a catastrophic engine failure, worked a 60/40 deal with BMW and replaced the engine. Then sold the vehicle to me. Completely crazy decision as he invested the money for the repair and then lost faith. But the repair was done.

Similar to the OP here, you are replacing the timing chain and oil pump chain. Just do the other maintenance (coolant pump, thermostat, trans fluid, diff fluids, transfer case fluid, ...) and keep it. You don't have to worry as much about a timing chain/oil starvation issue. I would think if you had planned to sell it you should have done that before you did the timing chain.

I heard from BMW that the oil pump has also been modified since 2013. If you are already there...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taoster

it's been 10 years since the F25 N20 X3 was released on the market. How many miles on your N20? I have mine in the shop getting the timing chain and oil pump chain replaced, now i'm contemplating if i should keep it or sell it. I currently have 93k on my 2013.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan13X3

I am third owner of a 2013 N20 X3. Previous owner suffered a catastrophic engine failure, worked a 60/40 deal with BMW and replaced the engine. Then sold the vehicle to me. Completely crazy decision as he invested the money for the repair and then lost faith. But the repair was done.

Similar to the OP here, you are replacing the timing chain and oil pump chain. Just do the other maintenance (coolant pump, thermostat, trans fluid, diff fluids, transfer case fluid, ...) and keep it. You don't have to worry as much about a timing chain/oil starvation issue. I would think if you had planned to sell it you should have done that before you did the timing chain.

I heard from BMW that the oil pump has also been modified since 2013. If you are already there...

I am from Canada and went through same situation for my X3 2013. But they offered me 80/20 deal for engine replacement with two years unlimited mileage warranty. I am at 16 months of my warranty and no issue so far at 177k km. This is a known issue in some N20 engines but BMW hide this information. So i strongly recommend x3 2013 owners to check with bmw this issue. I can send further info if required.

evilchargerfan · 01-27-2021, 12:41 PM

is the consensus , once the timing chain issue has been addressed .... that these n20's are to be reliable, moving forward?

bpwj76 · 01-28-2021, 09:32 AM

Around 85k miles on our 2016. Taking it tomorrow to the dealer to have a whining noise checked out that comes and goes depending on whether or not the A/C is on. It's still under CPO wrap until 9/30/21.

A/C clutch, tensioner pulley?

Wgosma · 01-28-2021, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bpwj76

Around 85k miles on our 2016. Taking it tomorrow to the dealer to have a whining noise checked out that comes and goes depending on whether or not the A/C is on. It's still under CPO wrap until 9/30/21.

A/C clutch, tensioner pulley?

Compressor: on these cars they use variable volume compressors (well, my 2012 X3 has one), this type of compressor is 'always engaged', no clutch to engage/disengage. whenever it's running (i.e. you have the A/C dash button set to "ON") it's 'engaged', so to speak....the internal vairiable volume modulation is how the unit controls/responds to your set desired cabin temperature.

I have bit of 'whine' on my car when a/c turned on. I'll be curious to know what your Dealer says. I did DIY PM of my serpentine belt and tensioner/pulley a year ago; that had no effect on the whine I'm hearing.

Keep us posted!
Thanks/Bill
fyi...my car at 89K miles.

slowblackx3f25 · 02-04-2021, 08:23 PM

My x3 is a 2017, at 70k miles and still running strong (thank the Lord!)

X3Turbo · 02-08-2021, 03:36 PM

2012 & just hit 75k

Bimar · 02-09-2021, 12:28 PM

2014 X4 1st owner, 39k miles

Bruce24 · 02-09-2021, 12:47 PM

I have a 2013 (delivered 8/2012) with 69K miles.

The car has had it's turbo lines, thermostat and water pump replaced.

If I understand the timing chain class action settlement correctly, my warranty will be extended by 1 year from the settlement date.

I was thinking of selling the car during the summer.

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Originally Posted by Taoster

I have mine in the shop getting the timing chain and oil pump chain replaced,

How much did the shop quote you for this work ?

Randeyman · 02-17-2021, 08:17 AM

Currently have 97k miles on my 2013 X3. I had my timing chain and associated plastic guide (as I understand it, the guide was the bigger problem than the actual chain was) replaced in Nov 2017 at 74K miles. It was out of warranty at the time, but this was a known issue by BMW. I managed to get "some" help (courtesy repair assistance) but it still cost me over $1400 for the repair. I recently received a letter in the mail concerning the class action lawsuit and IF I supply enough data, I MIGHT be able to get some financial relief concerning that repair.
Here is another thing to watch for... another known issue on the N20 engine.... IF you suddenly start blowing blue smoke on start-up, you likely have a leak in the oil feed line to the turbo charger.... After some slightly heated hassle and wrangling with the BMW dealer, BMW NA finally agreed to repair under an extended warranty condition. Note: Not ALL N20 engines are are covered under the extended warranty. See service bulletin SI B11 11 16 for information. So...Now my original factory battery is starting to fail... so I am in search of a real 105Ah battery. (That is the OEM size H9). Other than perhaps the dealer, I cannot locate one. The closest I can find here in North Alabama is 100Ah (H9). Perhaps I can code the change, but the Android BimmerCode app does not list a "100Ah" battery as an option. Thoughts?

kevink1 · 02-20-2021, 05:14 PM

I had quotes, installed, for my replacement battery at 2 different BMW dealerships last year. 1 for over $525. The other was under $270 (tax included). For the BMW brand 105Ah battery. So it may not be all that much more expensive to go the BMW brand route. Especially if you don't need them to install it.

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KC87ZB Second Lieutenant 305 Rep 252 Posts Drives: 2023 M2 Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Kansas City iTrader: (0)	I am third owner of a 2013 N20 X3. Previous owner suffered a catastrophic engine failure, worked a 60/40 deal with BMW and replaced the engine. Then sold the vehicle to me. Completely crazy decision as he invested the money for the repair and then lost faith. But the repair was done. Similar to the OP here, you are replacing the timing chain and oil pump chain. Just do the other maintenance (coolant pump, thermostat, trans fluid, diff fluids, transfer case fluid, ...) and keep it. You don't have to worry as much about a timing chain/oil starvation issue. I would think if you had planned to sell it you should have done that before you did the timing chain. I heard from BMW that the oil pump has also been modified since 2013. If you are already there...
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Randeyman New Member 0 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 2013 X3 28i (F25) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Huntsville, AL iTrader: (0)	F25 N20 engine Currently have 97k miles on my 2013 X3. I had my timing chain and associated plastic guide (as I understand it, the guide was the bigger problem than the actual chain was) replaced in Nov 2017 at 74K miles. It was out of warranty at the time, but this was a known issue by BMW. I managed to get "some" help (courtesy repair assistance) but it still cost me over $1400 for the repair. I recently received a letter in the mail concerning the class action lawsuit and IF I supply enough data, I MIGHT be able to get some financial relief concerning that repair. Here is another thing to watch for... another known issue on the N20 engine.... IF you suddenly start blowing blue smoke on start-up, you likely have a leak in the oil feed line to the turbo charger.... After some slightly heated hassle and wrangling with the BMW dealer, BMW NA finally agreed to repair under an extended warranty condition. Note: Not ALL N20 engines are are covered under the extended warranty. See service bulletin SI B11 11 16 for information. So...Now my original factory battery is starting to fail... so I am in search of a real 105Ah battery. (That is the OEM size H9). Other than perhaps the dealer, I cannot locate one. The closest I can find here in North Alabama is 100Ah (H9). Perhaps I can code the change, but the Android BimmerCode app does not list a "100Ah" battery as an option. Thoughts?
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