[Botwin]

I am thinking about ordering a 28i (Deep Sea Blue w/ Chestnut interior, cold wx, prem sound, Sport, tech, and premium)

The MSRP comes to $48,125. Cars.com shows an invoice of $44,435.

What sort of discounts have dealers been giving on the 28i? Edmunds doesnt have any info on the 2012's yet, so I am not sure what to shoot for during negotiations.

Thanks!

[Dukat]

$500-$1,000 over invoice is a good price.

Some dealers offer $500 off MSRP and say that's the best they can possibly do.
Another dealer will give you $2,500 off MSRP with no haggling.

I got $2,725 off a few weeks ago. I could have done better if I pushed for it.

I haven't seen 2012 invoice prices but I'm sure they are very similar to 2011.

Good luck!

[greg2step]

I paid about 5% below MSRP - 3.5% above invoice if i did the math right on my 2011. its a 35i shouldn't matter much though. there might have been another $200-300 but i got a great appraisal on my trade and I was close to edmunds TMV.

def love the deep sea blue after much deliberation I thought chestnut was too red for the blue exterior and went w/ mojave. there is someone on this list who has deep sea blue w/ chestnut, and several of us have it w/ mojave if you want to search for picts. Look at my picts on the deep sea blue thread on the photos videos section of this board. DSB+Mojave is a stunning combo.

i hope edmunds updates soon - i used that to help me figure out what to pay.

based on your MSRP - you should be paying just under $46k

[troggy1969]

Not sure how the US works but I got 5% in the UK

[greg2step]

also if you are driving a prior X3, you should qualify for 1000 owner loyalty - be sure you get that on top of what deal you make (assuming it hasn't changed)

[Botwin]

Thanks! I will check out the Mojave. You're right, the Chestnut can look a bit too orange or red. I also wonder if it will look dated over time, while black or Mojave are more neutral colors.

[greg2step]

i wanted a color that was more like cinnamon (Audi Q5 interior color) or Terra (similar to cinnamon - the leather on my friend's 2007 335xi.. Chestnut wasn't that - its ok though I really love the Mojave.

I try to avoid black interior's that's personal preference based on how hot my old 2003 VW passat w/ black leather got in the summer.

[Penso di no]

x5 has a nice cinnamon, too. Too bad x3 doesn't get it.

[Flashy09]

I am getting invoice price on my 2012.

[greg2step]

Originally Posted by Penso di no

x5 has a nice cinnamon, too. Too bad x3 doesn't get it.

Its ok Mojave is an X3 exclusive color and its really pretty. makes DSB+Mojave more unique because DSB is available on almost every current BMW, but Mojave leather is not

[Penso di no]

Originally Posted by Flashy09

I am getting invoice price on my 2012.

Where are you located, Flashman?

[Flashy09]

I may be a bad color decider, but I think I got a great deal! $1,000 under invoice and about $200 above dealer cost

[W3dge]

I got the mud flaps fitted for nothing, and a small discount off my winter wheel set.

[greg2step]

if you have a tradein - a good deal on the new car may be offset by a not-so good trade appraisal - and the reverse is true. I thought i might have been able to save another $300 on the x3 but a fantastic trade appraisal made the deal worthwhile.

without a trade its straight math on what you buy.

[skier219]

Originally Posted by Flashy09

I may be a bad color decider, but I think I got a great deal! $1,000 under invoice and about $200 above dealer cost

I think you mean $1000 under MSRP (sticker price)? Invoice is the same as dealer cost.

Note that there's roughly $3000 difference between invoice and MSRP on a base model of the 28i and 35i, and that spread increases with options. So I am not sure how you could be $1000 under MSRP and $200 over invoice.

[Flashy09]

Originally Posted by skier219

I think you mean $1000 under MSRP (sticker price)? Invoice is the same as dealer cost.

Note that there's roughly $3000 difference between invoice and MSRP on a base model of the 28i and 35i, and that spread increases with options. So I am not sure how you could be $1000 under MSRP and $200 over invoice.

It was $1,000 under invoice price. 4k or so under msrp. No trade in or rebate or loyalty

[Dukat]

Originally Posted by Flashy09

It was $1,000 under invoice price. 4k or so under msrp. No trade in or rebate or loyalty

That's a superb price. I thought my deal was decent, now I feel ripped off.

[Toecutter]

Originally Posted by Flashy09

It was $1,000 under invoice price. 4k or so under msrp. No trade in or rebate or loyalty

What dealership would do such a thing (and why on earth would they)???

[Penso di no]

Originally Posted by Toecutter

What dealership would do such a thing (and why on earth would they)???

Invoice is usually not the true dealer cost. It's almost always well above because the dealer gets other credits from the manufacturer for selling the car, and more if you finance through them. Never, ever, feel bad for the dealer. Whatever deal they make it's because they are making enough money off the car. Otherwise they just won't make the deal.

So the answer to your question is...any dealer who thought they were making enough off the car to make the deal. Sometimes that happens because they're not selling enough cars and need to make quotas to get more manufacturer kickbacks (end of month is good for that), sometimes it's because they're selling so many cars they can afford to take a lowball deal from a hard-ass and just add a few hundred to the bottom line.

It can also vary by region or even dealership, so you need to shop around. That's why I asked Flashy what part of the country he's in. I'm considering PCD, so I can probably by from any dealership in the country since they won't be involved in delivery, and I might as well make a deal in an area where better deals are possible. I got a quote for $100 over invoice, but if I can do better I might actually buy this year rather than wait for the D.

[Penso di no]

Originally Posted by Dukat

That's a superb price. I thought my deal was decent, now I feel ripped off.

Nah, you got a deal you were happy with, and so did the dealer. Win-win. Flashy got a helluva deal, but not on your car and not from your dealer (probably). You might very well have gotten the best deal possible from a dealer in your area, and even if you didn't you were happy enough to make that deal so don't worry about it. Enjoy the X3 when you get it.

Motor on.

[Toecutter]

Originally Posted by Penso di no

Invoice is usually not the true dealer cost. It's almost always well above because the dealer gets other credits from the manufacturer for selling the car, and more if you finance through them. Never, ever, feel bad for the dealer. Whatever deal they make it's because they are making enough money off the car. Otherwise they just won't make the deal.

So the answer to your question is...any dealer who thought they were making enough off the car to make the deal. Sometimes that happens because they're not selling enough cars and need to make quotas to get more manufacturer kickbacks (end of month is good for that), sometimes it's because they're selling so many cars they can afford to take a lowball deal from a hard-ass and just add a few hundred to the bottom line.

It can also vary by region or even dealership, so you need to shop around. That's why I asked Flashy what part of the country he's in. I'm considering PCD, so I can probably by from any dealership in the country since they won't be involved in delivery, and I might as well make a deal in an area where better deals are possible. I got a quote for $100 over invoice, but if I can do better I might actually buy this year rather than wait for the D.

What I should've said was, "How do I go about getting a deal like that???" I usually end up somewhere right in the middle of invoice and MSRP.

[Rodion]

I have agreed so far 2500€ for list price (MSRP?). Should I push for more...

That is about 3375 in USD.