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      09-28-2013, 03:04 PM   #23
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I find it odd that BMW says, "Yeah, you're brakes are likely enough to fail where we need to do a recall, but go ahead and keep driving the car for the next 3+ months until we can get around to fixing yours, good luck!"
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why is it may 2012? what changed in those few months? did they know about it then and fix it? i got my car in march 2012.
For one, they changed the vacuum pump starting 5/2012. http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...85&hg=11&fg=45
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So they issue a recall for the N20/26 but not for the N55 limp mode problem? I know of several members, including myself, who have gotten into close calls because we couldn't accelerate into or out of traffic quick enough...i.e. merging from an on ramp.
Maybe I'm not understanding this right but... Can't you just move over to the shoulder if you get into a limp mode while getting onto the highway? You have enough momentum to move to the right without disturbing following cars. I've never experienced limp more so I'm just trying to understand how limp mode can be dangerous.
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Maybe I'm not understanding this right but... Can't you just move over to the shoulder if you get into a limp mode while getting onto the highway? You have enough momentum to move to the right without disturbing following cars. I've never experienced limp more so I'm just trying to understand how limp mode can be dangerous.
Not all onramps and highways are long drawn out ramps with shoulders where you can just putz off to the side. Plenty of the ones around here are short and shoot you right onto the highway with a tight guardrail on the right and really no shoulder, not to mention a lot of onramps are also part of an offramp as well. Losing power could be downright deadly in one of those situations.
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Not all onramps and highways are long drawn out ramps with shoulders where you can just putz off to the side. Plenty of the ones around here are short and shoot you right onto the highway with a tight guardrail on the right and really no shoulder, not to mention a lot of onramps are also part of an offramp as well. Losing power could be downright deadly in one of those situations.
Ok that's fair, around here onramps are loooooong and with a huge shoulder the size of a lane. I can see this being dangerous in some cases, especially if you're being tailgated during the acceleration phase (but that's the fault of the driver tailgating you).
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I find it odd that BMW says, "Yeah, you're brakes are likely enough to fail where we need to do a recall, but go ahead and keep driving the car for the next 3+ months until we can get around to fixing yours, good luck!"
+1 - This is not the response I would expect from BMW.

My 2013 X3 2.8i is my Wife's Car so we decided to "Park" it for now until this gets sorted out. I hope soon!
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+1 - This is not the response I would expect from BMW.

My 2013 X3 2.8i is my Wife's Car so we decided to "Park" it for now until this gets sorted out. I hope soon!
You can park yours, but how will you avoid the others on the road?
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I find it odd that BMW says, "Yeah, you're brakes are likely enough to fail where we need to do a recall, but go ahead and keep driving the car for the next 3+ months until we can get around to fixing yours, good luck!"
They didn't say the brakes would outright fail, just that they could lose the power assist. The brakes will still work you just need to push a little harder with your foot.
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^ Agreed however as you probably know, your braking distance immediately changes.
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They didn't say the brakes would outright fail, just that they could lose the power assist. The brakes will still work you just need to push a little harder with your foot.
I wonder if people even remember cars without power brakes? Or why it is such a fuzz? As you wrote brakes work but without power assist. Also the handbrake will work (pull it up and keep it up long enough and it will start to brake even in high speeds).

Same thing was with the power steering, people got mad about "I can't steer the car". What the hell? It still steers, just without power assist.

Even though I can see that BMW is not quite gentle with these issues, I also wonder what the hell is wrong with modern day people, or modern day reactions to small issues.
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I wonder if people even remember cars without power brakes? Or why it is such a fuzz? As you wrote brakes work but without power assist. Also the handbrake will work (pull it up and keep it up long enough and it will start to brake even in high speeds).

Same thing was with the power steering, people got mad about "I can't steer the car". What the hell? It still steers, just without power assist.

Even though I can see that BMW is not quite gentle with these issues, I also wonder what the hell is wrong with modern day people, or modern day reactions to small issues.
I don't think this is trivial. Because the power assist is there, the brakes are designed to rely on it, so that when it fails they are much, much harder to use. There's no comparison with a car from 50 years ago that had no brake assist. You can expect to have to use a lot of leg strength and to have longer braking distances. There have been accidents that resulted from this problem. Your best protection for now is just knowing that it might happen to you, so that you're prepared to react to it.
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I've had a few instances where I really had to exert extra effort on the brake pedal in order to stop. It's random, but can catch you off guard.
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