12-15-2011, 11:22 PM | #23 |
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Trust me I know about the passion of driving. After driving the x3 the RR Evoque was off my shopping list. But the crappy throttle mapping of the 35i takes some of the enjoyment out of driving the car. The KIA with less power doesn't have this fault. I suppose if you drive it like ya stole it the throttle position issue wouldn't be an issue (at least for me). I did read somewhere about unbolting the throttle peddle to adjust the sensor to fix the issue.
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12-15-2011, 11:28 PM | #24 |
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No, I think it's good to compare a KIA to a BMW. We shouldn't get too brand-miopic and competition is good! And "value" has different meaning to different people.
For the OP: I think the X3 will age much better than the KIA, both mechanically but most of all visually. You can see that already in X3 vs Q5. If you keep your car 4 or so years that will be a factor. |
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12-16-2011, 05:22 AM | #28 | |
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12-16-2011, 07:12 AM | #30 |
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i think you have signed up for the wrong site, this isnt kia forum does it have a forum like this i bet not lol
the fact is you dont come to bmw forum bad mouthing why u are not buying x3, its your opinion and you should keep it to yourself. if money is not an issue out of all the SAV why kia, did you look at nissan, toyota or benz. i drive a bmw because its my choice and i feel comfortable behind the wheel and nothing beats 4yr maintenance program with privilege to get a loaner. good luck |
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12-16-2011, 07:16 AM | #31 |
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the op said he was CONSIDERING the kia, and posted here to hear what people had to say about the x3. there's no point in bad mouthing the op or anyone else.
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12-16-2011, 08:01 AM | #32 |
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I can't believe the venom that is spewed by some members on this forum!
jk, you are correct I am only considering the kia along with the BMW and I am not ashamed to admit that. Anyone who discounts a brand solely on an uninformed perception is a fool. |
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12-16-2011, 08:42 AM | #34 |
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lbjgh, the throttle mapping isn't the end of the world. Play with the feel in normal mode vs sport mode for a while and you'll get used to it. In Sport the car feels quick, but not too aggressive. I'd recommend DHP also.
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12-16-2011, 10:15 AM | #35 |
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i, too, was concerned about the throttle mapping. i started a thread on bimmerfest inquiring about it. people replied that the tip in problem seemed to disappear over the course of the first few thousand miles. not clear if was the computer learning the style of the driver, or the driver learning the style of the computer, but everyone replied that it ceased to be a problem, and that before long they gave it no thought. obviously a test drive, or a series of test drives with different drivers, is not going to allow a computer to adjust. also, obviously a test driver or reviewer does not have time to become used the idiosyncrasies of the computer, so i relied on the word of the people who drove their vehicles for a period of weeks to months, instead of a period of minutes to hours.
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Kia is still regarded as a "cheap" brand here in the UK although their family hatchbacks and new sportage are getting better reviews. They mainly sell to people who are swayed by their 7 year warrenty here whereas most manufactureres (inc BMW) only offer 3 as standard.
The resale values here tho are very low on brands such as Kias and Hyundai. |
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12-16-2011, 02:40 PM | #38 |
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Guys, thanks for the information regarding the throttle mapping on the 35i. Perhaps it just takes a bit of time to adjust driving style to match the drivetrain strengths, gearing and engine power/torque curves.
I looked at the Infiniti and found the rear seats to be too tight in the EX and the FX is a little larger vehicle than I want or need. |
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Some of this reminds me of discussions on Touareg forums about the Qashqai. I have to say the VW owners were a little more objective but you could argue the stern defence of BMW and the scoffing of even the mention of Kia in the same sentence speaks volumes about the brand. Call me vain but I would never consider owning a Kia or a Nissan.
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12-16-2011, 06:17 PM | #41 |
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the EX is the same thing - only smaller - it compares more to an X1 in size. or a 328wagon with the SUV lift and larger wheels.... The FX is larger than an X3 smaller than an X5, but as you said Infiniti finds a way to kill cargo space accross their line of sedans and SUV's (except the QX) apparently they have another SUV in between the FX and the QX in the works. I agree the EX is too small for me - so is the X1....
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but btw, the fx35 has mileage of 16/21, while the x3 35i is 19/26. and 0-60, the fx35 is 6.6, the x3 35i is 5.6. and the ex is much smaller than a 328i wagon, at least in cargo capacity. with seats folded, the ex is 47.4 cubic feet, a 328i wagon has 60.9. |
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12-16-2011, 08:39 PM | #43 |
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KIA and BMW are not really competitors. Cars, like clothing, are an extension of your style/personality. I drove a Ford once but no matter I said...it still was a Ford. If you really want to justify buying a KIA...shouldn't you post in a KIA forum? Nothing wrong with buying a KIA but why are you getting BMW owners to justify their purchase over a KIA?
If you really really want value then buy a used car. Buying new cars as you know are really poor investments. Ya I know...my BMW is a toy. Last edited by BBMk; 12-16-2011 at 08:49 PM.. |
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