10-09-2013, 02:12 AM | #1 |
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X3 facelift for 2014 will need to be more than new bumpers to stop loss of sales to Porsche. I like my X3 but might consider the Porsche unless BMW puts a bit more power in the X3 engines.
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And I bet the price, at least in here, will be 50% more compared to BMW. But in general it is good that competition gets tougher, this will keep BMW on its toes. |
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I can't get past how UGLY that thing is!
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I think they have different target audiences really.The Audi Q5 (which the Macan is based on) lines up better to the X3, whereas the Land Rover Evoque probably better alings with the Macan from a price perspective, although the Macan will surely be more $$ as Porsche is notorious for exorbitant prices for options (see Porsche crests on the seats / wheels for reference).
My guess is a well optioned X5 will be in the same price range as similar Macan. |
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I always though that the Cayenne was ugly but for some reason I think the Macan looks great. But like others have said it will probably be in a completely different price range than the X3.
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I guess the X4M competes with the Macan Turbo. I'm not looking for the X4 form factor. What I - and I bet a lot of you - really want is an X3M with the engine from the M3/M4 and which shares light weight parts and tech. Last edited by nonagon; 10-11-2013 at 12:21 AM.. |
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The Macan may indeed be a great piece of machinery but I cannot get past how ugly it is. That big fat ugly bulbous ass is hideous.
Alsdo, the Macan is clearly a station wagon, not an SUV. I have always clearly put function before form and frequently disagree with my wife in this regard when it comes to many decisions that effect both of us. However, in the case of the Macan, the form is so bad, the function does not matter. Last edited by RhoXS; 10-11-2013 at 04:55 AM.. |
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More photos with less or no camouflage here: http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...py-photos-news
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The new Macan is not even out yet and you already know it is going to take sales from the X3? In my opinion, the Macan is more of a expensive version of the X1 rather than a direct competitor to the X3.
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It's actually 70mm longer than the Q5 it's based on while sharing the same wheelbase. It would be slightly longer than an X3 as well. So they could be cross shopped and the Macan could conceivably steal some sales from the X3.
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The Q5 is just a POS VW Tiguan, and the Macan is probably built on the same platform... ie all 3 are essentially the same crap VW product. Only thing is you get the Porsche engine in a VW... The RR Evoque is just a POS Ford...
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Sorry should be Macan shares Q5 platform and Cayenne shares Touareg's. Q7 and Touareg share a lot of parts but the Q7 is quite a bit larger.
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In the past month, the Q5 outsells X3 in the ratio of 2 to 1 (3268 vs 1580) in the U.S. I can see the rear bumper of an X3 from a mile away and that is not a complement. With a big chunk of black color rubber/plastic, it is pure ugly (aside from the gorgeous M Sport) and is not premium at all. This is my theory why the Q5, with body colored bumpers, side skirts sell better - no matter you choose the least expensive or most expensive line. Funny is that the new X5's rear bumper is still quite ugly (again aside from M sport), although it has a bit less black "plastic" parts.
I am sure the LCI bumper will be all color coordinated (just like the LCI of the last X3). BMW has to stop playing these games - intentionally making a new car's bumper look ugly and fixing it in the facelift. |
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