[Bimar]

this is one funny thread

[zc_lawrence]

I will buy a German made bulb.

[zc_lawrence]

Here is the diagnose result on the X3:

Codes: 14202 14302 140402 140502 140602 (Misfire codes)
Scanned the vehicle and codes for misfires 1-6 cylinders. Replace six spark plugs.

I was told I am probably the only one on earth experienced this (six spark plugs need replaced with 1399km on it, only had the car for 24 days).

[xDrive35i]

Originally Posted by zc_lawrence

Same thing happened to me today, as I was 150km out of town. The car only have 1399KM on it. When I started the car it shakes like crazy. I tried to put on reverse, neutral to see if the transmission is not working properly, but it doesn't stop the vibration. It is a brand new car, and the engine is failing!!!!

I called Roadside assistant, and the car was towed to the dealer. It is a saturday of course the service department closed early. So no loaner car for me!!!

There is another thing I want to point out is that the map of the GPS is so freaking old. It is a 2011 car and the map is 2008!!!! WTF!!! I asked the service guy the other day when I was in the dealership, the guy told me that BMW doesn't update the map, there is a third party in charge of the GPS map. He also told me that the new 6 series is sharing the same map as I have.

When I asked the guy about the new BMW X3 recall, he doesn't even heard of it. WTH!!! So I told him to google it, which he did, then he told me the recall is not for all X3, and I should go home and wait for the mail or a call if my car is on the list.

My conclusion: I will never buy a car that's made in US!!!! (I have a VW MKV which is made in Germany for 5 years, never had any problem and I pump the cheapest gas; for the X3 it is always the Grade 91 from Shell and the engine fails at 1399 Km)

Originally Posted by zc_lawrence

No the failing engine is the US made 2011 BMW x3 28i which has only 1399km on it.

The N55 and N52 engines are most certainly not made in the US. The engines and their respective drivetrains are made in Germany. The N55 and N52 have been and will continue to be used in an array of BMW vehicles (until they officially introduce the N20 into production in place of the N52); the 1, 3, 5, 7 (N54), Z4 (N54), X3, X5, and X6.

All BMWs are conceived, designed, and engineered in Germany at BMW AG. BMW NA receives these concepts and designs and considers them for the American market at headquarters in California, New Jersey, and South Carolina.

So get your facts straight. The only thing that's American about BMWs that are built in Spartanburg, South Carolina is the assembly process of your fabulous vehicle with the German-made parts and the hands that guide the machines (which are unfeeling objects and therefore do not identify with any race or nationality) as the car moves down the assembly line.

These people are genuine, well-paid factory workers and executives alike. There are many people who came from Germany to live and work in Spartanburg and oversee each and every single process that goes into building each X3. Do not undermine the credibility and the decency of hard working Americans. Not all of us are lazy--certainly not the ones who are on this forum who have worked hard enough to afford a BMW.

You don't hear me complaining about my discomfort with sharing a continent with Canadians because all you guys do is sit around and poke holes in maple trees and adorn your homes with leaves, because 1: that is silly and childish, 2: I wouldn't dare claim any part of that sentence to be my personal belief because none of it is true, and 3: I'm responsible enough to know when not to talk out of my ass.

And if you can't behave like a responsible, impartial, and forgiving adult--especially in regard to people you have never met and probably know nothing about--then maybe you should reevaluate whether such a special purchase is really right for you.

[xDrive35i]

Originally Posted by zc_lawrence

Here is the diagnose result on the X3:

Codes: 14202 14302 140402 140502 140602 (Misfire codes)
Scanned the vehicle and codes for misfires 1-6 cylinders. Replace six spark plugs.

I was told I am probably the only one on earth experienced this (six spark plugs need replaced with 1399km on it, only had the car for 24 days).

And oh BOO HOO. I got my car in February and it had so many problems (I barely got to drive it because it was in the service department for so many months) that it was declared a LEMON under the lemon law, and I was given the opportunity to reorder with more options. Good things come out of patience. Life is not perfect, so your expectations should not assume otherwise. And more importantly, your car shouldn't serve a pivotal role in the meaning of your existence.

[powertech83]

I agree completely with Juddholland. Besides, there are no warranties that german-made BMW will not have any failures. I've heard stories of the 7 series (which is made in Germany and BMW flagship) being declared a lemon, just go over to the 7 forum and search for "lemon".

[tagz]

Originally Posted by juddholland

And oh BOO HOO. I got my car in February and it had so many problems (I barely got to drive it because it was in the service department for so many months) that it was declared a LEMON under the lemon law, and I was given the opportunity to reorder with more options. Good things come out of patience. Life is not perfect, so your expectations should not assume otherwise. And more importantly, your car shouldn't serve a pivotal role in the meaning of your existence.

+1

I could not put it in better words! You hit the nail on the head

[tuco44]

Plus 1 on both juddhollands posts above.

[sfax]

I love it when Judd gets on his soapbox. Well said

[xDrive35i]

Originally Posted by sfax

I love it when Judd gets on his soapbox. Well said

[skier219]

Originally Posted by zc_lawrence

Here is the diagnose result on the X3:

Codes: 14202 14302 140402 140502 140602 (Misfire codes)
Scanned the vehicle and codes for misfires 1-6 cylinders. Replace six spark plugs.

I was told I am probably the only one on earth experienced this (six spark plugs need replaced with 1399km on it, only had the car for 24 days).

That doesn't make sense to me. I think there is a different *common* failure that would cause the problem (ie, some part of the ignition circuit). I have a hard time believing six spark plugs were bad on the same engine.

[clivem2]

Replacing plugs is a standard first response when they haven't a clue what to do.

[gareth12468]

Originally Posted by skier219

That doesn't make sense to me. I think there is a different *common* failure that would cause the problem (ie, some part of the ignition circuit). I have a hard time believing six spark plugs were bad on the same engine.

At least they have the codes and know what the problem is.....

The service department I went still don't have a clue about what cause the warnings came up with my car.....

[zc_lawrence]

I am glad to see some real inputs from the customers.

I throught the same about my car. First when I was told there is only one spark plug is malfunction, I couldn't believe it fully as the car should not shake that much. When I had the report in front of me, there are five misfires in the engine. So they replaced all six spark plugs. I didn't get to see what the plugs were like, but I still believe it is not a coincident that all five spark plugs failed at the same time. Take a probability count what is the chance that happens (50% x 50% x 50% x 50% x 50% = 0.03% given each plug fails at a 50% ratio)? It is gonna be nearly impossible. So it must be a computer error, or some sort (I am not a electrical engineer or mechanical engineer).

At this point they can not tell me what caused it. If I am not the first one experience this, we should speak up so BMW can make a recall on that, maybe it will safe some life this time.

[Itchywasabi]

Did you check if chuck norris is anywhere near around your X3? It maybe the reason why it's shaking.