[honeybadgerch]

Yeah... Production in week 31 then shipping to the Netherlands, and transport to Switzerland. Brutal

[Harroldv]

Originally Posted by honeybadgerch

Yeah... Production in week 31 then shipping to the Netherlands, and transport to Switzerland. Brutal

Crazy! If i order one next week i would have it mid july

[fuzzer]

My Car with the new Navigation arrives in a few weeks ill take some pictures for you when it comes.

[TonySCV]

Originally Posted by Harroldv

Was this also with the touchscreen? Or just the menu layout in the F25 X3? Is the screen size the same?

Originally Posted by honeybadgerch

Looking for an answer to Harroldv's question too!

No touchscreen, just the new software (iDrive 5), new controller, LTE connectivity and over the air map updates.





You can also see the new USB charging port at the bottom of the dash in the above photo. The wireless charging "dock" is in the center console when you order that option (also includes a WiFi hotspot in the car), and replaces the smartphone integration and the BMW phone adapters, which are being phased out.

[honeybadgerch]

Hey TonySCV, thanks for the pics and the info! I'm pretty sure what you posted is exactly what will be coming in the late 2016/2017 f25 LCI models in terms of infotainment. How do you find the new iDrive software? Any Easter eggs hidden or otherwise cool things?

[jtd]

What you see in top view camera in the new idrive 5.0 ?

This: (1)



or this: (2)

[honeybadgerch]

The new iDrive 5.0 surround view parking mode looks fantastic. Really hoping that is the case with the late model x3 and MY2017 x3s

[TonySCV]

Originally Posted by honeybadgerch

Hey TonySCV, thanks for the pics and the info! I'm pretty sure what you posted is exactly what will be coming in the late 2016/2017 f25 LCI models in terms of infotainment. How do you find the new iDrive software? Any Easter eggs hidden or otherwise cool things?

I'll let you know in a week or so. I took those photos from cars.com photos. My MY17 X4 is built and on a train headed for the west coast at the moment.

Originally Posted by jtd

What you see in top view camera in the new idrive 5.0 ?

This: (1)



or this: (2)

Great question. I'll find out when my MY17 arrives. I'm sure others who purchased a 2017 can chime in.

FWIW - The 2017 X5 and X6 models ('17's arrive in August of this year IIRC for the X5/6), will have touchscreen in addition to iDrive 5. I'm assuming touchscreen capabilities will arrive for the X3 and 4 with the new platform as BMW will probably want to move the screen closer to the passengers for easier reach-ability. It's nice though that BMW updated the software at least.

[Crassus]

Wireless charging would be been terrific for my Samsung Galaxy Edge 6+. Before I bought my car last a few weeks ago I was offered a May build slot but I preferred buying a car that's ready for delivery, and I got a £4,000 discount.

Any chance I can upgrade my car to iDrive 5?

[Harroldv]

Originally Posted by Crassus

Wireless charging would be been terrific for my Samsung Galaxy Edge 6+. Before I bought my car last a few weeks ago I was offered a May build slot but I preferred buying a car that's ready for delivery, and I got a £4,000 discount.

Any chance I can upgrade my car to iDrive 5?

I seriously doubt it unless at ridiculous cost perhaps!

[Pinewood]

You can upgrade the software, but i woukd only use the dealer or someone that reallys knows his stuff. It took my trusted Indy 2 days to upgrade the iDrive on my E60

[fuzzer]

Originally Posted by Crassus

Wireless charging would be been terrific for my Samsung Galaxy Edge 6+. Before I bought my car last a few weeks ago I was offered a May build slot but I preferred buying a car that's ready for delivery, and I got a £4,000 discount.

Any chance I can upgrade my car to iDrive 5?

Anything is possible.

You're taking thousands of pounds tho. New navigation computer, new screen, new controller. wireless charging setup between the seats and a new roof aerial possibly too.

Plus a new licence for the map and installation.

I'd guess about £5-6000 right now?

[Crassus]

Originally Posted by Pinewood

You can upgrade the software, but i woukd only use the dealer or someone that reallys knows his stuff. It took my trusted Indy 2 days to upgrade the iDrive on my E60

That's what I'm thinking. My car was manufactured in January which could make a software update possible unless there is significant hardware difference between MY2016 and MY2017 iDrive systems.

I will keep my eyes peeled and also ask the dealer.

[TonySCV]

Originally Posted by Crassus

Any chance I can upgrade my car to iDrive 5?

Not without significant expense.

Originally Posted by Crassus

That's what I'm thinking. My car was manufactured in January which could make a software update possible unless there is significant hardware difference between MY2016 and MY2017 iDrive systems.

Unfortunately there is a significant hardware difference.

iDrive 5 in the X3/4 also requires the NBT2 head unit hardware (AKA NBT EVO), which is also part of the 2017 models (US) (i.e. any X3 and X4 built after April 1st 2016, and was not offered earlier. NBT2 includes a faster processor and LTE wireless connectivity along with over the air map updates.

For vehicles like the 2016 3 series and 2015-16 2 series that already have NBT2 hardware with iDrive 4.x, then it should be a simple(r) software-only upgrade. In the case of the X3 and 4 though, you're looking at a major expense because you'll need to purchase an NBT2 head unit as well. New NBT unit, new software, potentially other hardware (LTE modem which is also part of the NBT2 hardware), not to mention the expense of installation and finding someone knowledgeable enough to perform the install (the dealers won't offer it as a supported upgrade).

One of these years they'll make the entertainment hardware and software in these cars easier to upgrade, but right now automakers feel they would cannibalize sales by doing so (they would much rather you upgrade your vehicle, not just your NBT unit).

[honeybadgerch]

Originally Posted by TonySCV

Not without significant expense.



Unfortunately there is a significant hardware difference.

iDrive 5 in the X3/4 also requires the NBT2 head unit hardware (AKA NBT EVO), which is also part of the 2017 models, and was not offered in 2016 or earlier. NBT2 includes a faster processor and LTE wireless connectivity along with over the air map updates.

For vehicles like the 2016 3 series and 2015-16 2 series that already have NBT2 hardware with iDrive 4.x, then it should be a simple(r) software-only upgrade. In the case of the X3 and 4 though, you're looking at a major expense because you'll need to purchase an NBT2 head unit as well. New NBT unit, new software, potentially other hardware (LTE modem which is also part of the NBT2 hardware), not to mention the expense of installation and finding someone knowledgeable enough to perform the install (the dealers won't offer it as a supported upgrade).

One of these years they'll make the entertainment hardware and software in these cars easier to upgrade, but right now automakers feel they would cannibalize sales by doing so (they would much rather you upgrade your vehicle, not just your NBT unit).

TonyCSV, I'm note sure you're entirely correct on that. As far as I understand, NBT EVO (iDrive 5.0 capable unit) started to be incorporated into builds as of April 2016, and as such, the later 2016 model X3s should have it (minus the touch screen, etc).

Or am I completely confused

[TonySCV]

Originally Posted by honeybadgerch

TonyCSV, I'm note sure you're entirely correct on that. As far as I understand, NBT EVO (iDrive 5.0 capable unit) started to be incorporated into builds as of April 2016, and as such, the later 2016 model X3s should have it (minus the touch screen, etc).

Or am I completely confused

No, you are right. I could have been clearer. I forgot that the X3 and X4 model years are different in different countries.

In the US, the model year changed to 2017 as of April 1st as well. In other countries, the model has stayed 2016, but yes, any X3 and X4 built after April 1st, 2016 will have NBT2 (NBT EVO) and iDrive 5 installed.

[Shu3y]

Dang, looks like I missed all of this by a couple of months
But wonder if it's different between countries i.e. production years?

[m_alnimah]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

wow, would love to know more about how this wireless charging thing is going to work

Works with Samsung, not Apple unfortunately.

[Ragazzi-07]

besides the new nav 5.0 is their any visual differences on the 17 vs 16?

like it won't be a total refresh or anything?

[Crashnbrn5]

I recently saw the 2017 X3 on the highway at night cruising, and BMW did a really good job with the tail lights. Big difference compared with the "old".

[honeybadgerch]

Originally Posted by Crashnbrn5

I recently saw the 2017 X3 on the highway at night cruising, and BMW did a really good job with the tail lights. Big difference compared with the "old".

Do the "tubes" look more "glowy" or is it a redesign? And yes those are technical terminology

[Crashnbrn5]

Originally Posted by honeybadgerch

Do the "tubes" look more "glowy" or is it a redesign? And yes those are technical terminology

It looks like a cleaner version of the new x5 tail lights. A redesign is an understatement.