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      02-24-2016, 08:40 AM   #23
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Remember folks of hatred. This is only a stepping stone to the real M. And to please the demands and desires that customers have, BMW had no choice but to put this out to the public.

This will be a great SAV and it will fill in the hole; for now.

And tuners will find a safe and reliable way to get 440hp out of this engine.

It's funny, remember when the 1st 4.8is X5 came out. People were drooling for that NA inspired 355 hp V8. It was an amazing engine, developed by the M division. For its time, even that X5 was very capable.

Now this new technology, and light weight materials, the x4 with 355hp will be the real deal, at least until then X3M/X4M come out in 2 years.
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I just checked out the national inventory. There are dealers marking them down from sticker. Hmmm...

Anyone else think there are too many letters on the back? Couldn't they have called it an M40iX?
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      02-24-2016, 09:10 AM   #27
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The problem with this car is that pictures do it no justice. In person, it is a whole lot nicer. I didn't like it much in pictures when the X4 was first released but when I saw it in person, it looked miles better. Couple that with the comment above about potential X5M/X6M levels of power and all of a sudden it becomes a great bargain.


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      02-24-2016, 09:30 AM   #30
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That last one is at my dealership. I think we just got a blue one, too?
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      02-24-2016, 09:38 AM   #31
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      02-24-2016, 09:39 AM   #32
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Tell me you're getting one :-D
Need a M40i buddy in NYC

BMW Genius called me and informed there was a hold at port due to EPA testing.
I'm onboard! I love these X4 M40i's! I just have to get my wife to go from this:



to this (since it would be her car):

Don't do it...your wife has better taste!
Sq5 is much nicer!
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Audi's quatro is superior to BMW X. I'd keep SQ5.
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      02-24-2016, 10:03 AM   #34
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Who would've thought Pontiac was a pioneer in this SUV segment...

These are just Aztecs with lipstick.
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      02-24-2016, 10:10 AM   #35
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Potential F85 power? C'mon, it's a great BMW (with a v dated interior), but don't fool yourself (or anyone else here) into thinking that anything short of a fully built engine (at great, unrecoverable expense) will get you anywhere near advertised S63TU output, much less it's actual output (closer to 650hp, see here: http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1179357 ).

With a G01 X3/4M confirmed and on the horizon- with what is likely with the S55, meaningful improvements to chassis (weight, proper DHP, etc.) and a greatly improved interior finishes- this car doesn't make a ton of sense to me.

Buy a gently used LCI X3 xDrive35i M sport for $20k+ less and trade it in on your G01 X3/4M.

Or lease, I suppose.
All very valid points. I merely meant to give more credit to the M40i X4 than it's getting. I'm not really an SUV fan but the vehicle is a very nice one. The X5M/X6M's are total animals.
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I drove a lower powered X4 and i was pleasantly surprised. Since then, I am a believer so this top dog would be a blast to drive, i can only imagine.

For more practicality, i think a X3 M40i would be a better choice personally.

The X4 is still very nice. I am well over its look now.
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Potential F85 power? C'mon, it's a great BMW (with a v dated interior), but don't fool yourself (or anyone else here) into thinking that anything short of a fully built engine (at great, unrecoverable expense) will get you anywhere near advertised S63TU output, much less it's actual output (closer to 650hp, see here: http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1179357 ).

With a G01 X3/4M confirmed and on the horizon- with what is likely with the S55, meaningful improvements to chassis (weight, proper DHP, etc.) and a greatly improved interior finishes- this car doesn't make a ton of sense to me.

Buy a gently used LCI X3 xDrive35i M sport for $20k+ less and trade it in on your G01 X3/4M.

Or lease, I suppose.

The original comment was saying a potential for F85 levels of power to weight ratio. The guy you quoted either misunderstood or wasn't being clear enough.
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      02-24-2016, 11:15 AM   #38
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      02-24-2016, 11:47 AM   #39
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I don't get how people are all of a sudden wowed by the drivetrain? To me its the most disappointing thing about the M40i. No torque vector/LSD? Some software to make the car sound a bit louder? A couple mm of suspension drop ( which any tuner is going to toss 10 minutes into ownership).

Its still an N55, the same one that has been in an X3 for years. They haven't really changed anything else about the car but boost the factory HP ( which for some reason people don't get that more horsepower from factory means less incremental HP with tunes and boltons).

Its a good car in stock form. But if you are big into modifying it then its no better than anything that has come before.

I dunno guys, i think you are out to lunch on this car's potential.

Want a racetruck? Wait for the real M with real changes.
We are forgetting its not just an N55, but the way it should had been to be able to handle more HP/TQ, stay cooler, breathe better, perform better, and not buck. It's not just an N55 again, its now a closed-deck instead, the water jacket surrounding the cylinders is sealed at the top, which endows the crankcase with an exceptionally high degree of stiffness. Steel crankshaft, pistons with a modified top ring, crankshaft bearings and high performance spark plugs in its 6 cylinder inline engine with M TwinPower Turbo technology.

-specially tuned sports chassis
- stronger springs and stabilizers
- increased camber on the front axle
- adaptive dampers specifically tuned to M Performance specifications
- xDrive all-wheel drive system has been recalibrated with more power routed to the rear wheels during normal operation
- Performance Control ensures a responsive steering with more road feedback as well confident dynamics due to a specific tuning of the steering

In addition to a higher level of turbo boost pressure and an increase in the amount of fuel injected, the engine has been fitted with an aerodynamically tuned air intake manifold as well as an exhaust system optimized both in terms of back pressure and sound characteristics in order to enhance performance. A separate oil cooler guarantees that the optimum operating temperature of this extremely powerful engine is maintained under all driving conditions. The radical technical changes include, an intelligent valve control, a back pressure-optimized double-flow exhaust system fitted beneath the floor of the vehicle, as well as resonator tuning specific to M Performance. The result is a powerful sound, individually determined by the driver depending on driving mode and driving situation, perfectly emphasizing the car's sporty character acoustically.

So for the price, it's not a WOW but its an improvement and update.


http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...x4-m40i-review

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=898159
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Audi's quatro is superior to BMW X. I'd keep SQ5.
Or get a macan (like I did) that runs rings around both
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Audi's quatro is superior to BMW X. I'd keep SQ5.
I'm not so sure about that. Quattro CAN NOT send 100% of torque to any axle let alone any wheel. xDrive on road is probably one of the best systems out there.
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Have you checked the x-drive calibration for this model?
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The hate comes from the coupe SUV concept. It's objectively a stupid design and subjectively ugly.

If this was the X3 M40i, I would say it's awesome. I love our SQ5 but if an X3 version of this would have been around 2 years ago, I probably would have gone BMW. There is no way in hell I would ditch the SQ5 for an X4 no matter how much power it has.

And regarding the xDrive vs Quattro argument, it all depends on how BMW tunes their xDrive. Quattro with Torsen or Quattro/Haldex are known entities and Torsen is great and Haldex is boring. xDrive is a little more nebulous between vehicles in their lineup, but at least with it on my M235i it is spectacular for sporty driving and traction. It is very rear wheel biased in the M235i so if they engineer it the same way with the M40i, I would take that over the Audi with Torsen Quattro due to superior weight balance in the BMW.

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