[Sireal]

I have the Goodyear Eagles, they have lasted 31K. Looking for replacements that are "All Season". Recommendations appreciated.

[The X Men]

Do you have 18" tires or 19"?

[Sireal]

I have 18" wheels

[Sireal]

I am considering the following:

Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Run Flat

Goodyear Eagle ( I have now are backed ordered until March 2015)

[The X Men]

I would not buy the Good year Eagle LS, they are over-price and does not perform well. I have Pirelli on my wife's X3, they are OK, short tread life though. I am thinking about getting the Conti ProContact for the X3, I have them on my 535i and they perform well in the snow for an all season tire and they are quieter and softer than the GY Eagle LS and the Pirelli.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....r=Base%20Model

[96_Impreza]

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=869570

We got these at Discount Tire:
4 Bridgestone Potenza RE960 AS Pole Position Run Flat
(14833)
245/50R18 100WRF BW
$230.00 $920.00
Tire Disposal Fee Valve Stems, Lifetime Rotations Installation & Lifetime Spin Balancing $16.00 $64.00 $1.25 $5.00 FREE
$10.00 $40.00
Subtotal $1,029.00
NM 7.00% Sales Tax $72.03
Total "Out the Door" Price $1,101.03

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by The X Men

I would not buy the Good year Eagle LS, they are over-price and does not perform well. I have Pirelli on my wife's X3, they are OK, short tread life though. I am thinking about getting the Conti ProContact for the X3, I have them on my 535i and they perform well in the snow for an all season tire and they are quieter and softer than the GY Eagle LS and the Pirelli.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....r=Base%20Model

Agreed Cheapyear LS2 are horrible after 11k of use.
ProContact TX SSR are RFT ?
I know someone with ProContact GX SSR and they're new so no test have been done yet on TR.

Originally Posted by 96_Impreza

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=869570

We got these at Discount Tire:
4 Bridgestone Potenza RE960 AS Pole Position Run Flat
(14833)
245/50R18 100WRF BW
$230.00 $920.00
Tire Disposal Fee Valve Stems, Lifetime Rotations Installation & Lifetime Spin Balancing $16.00 $64.00 $1.25 $5.00 FREE
$10.00 $40.00
Subtotal $1,029.00
NM 7.00% Sales Tax $72.03
Total "Out the Door" Price $1,101.03

I had these on my 328xi, felt like i was driving on rails and didn't get to test them on snow but they were great in dry and decent in rain.

Originally Posted by Sireal

I am considering the following:

Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Run Flat

Goodyear Eagle ( I have now are backed ordered until March 2015)

I hope they discontinue the Cheapyear and do all of us a favor
Cinturato P7 A/S are decent but they have short-tread left like X_men mentioned

[woodchuck1]

Pirelli P7 run flats were the original tires on my X3. I didn't like them. They only lasted 30,000 miles of gentle driving, they rode rough over small sharp road imperfections, and they got noisier and noisier as they wore down. Not recommended.

[Amber]

you might want to think about switching to non-RFT.
View what others say on the Forum.

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by Amber

you might want to think about switching to non-RFT.
View what others say on the Forum.

Yea NON-RFT much safer on 18's also if you have Tire/Wheel Insurance no brainer!

I was looking into the following for my 19's RFT
- Conti ProContact GX SSR (RFT)
- Michelin Primacy MXM4 ZP (RFT)
- Michelin Primacy MXM4 (Non-RFT)
- Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus ZP (RFT)
- Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season RFT
- Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus (rated better than the RFT)

- Conti DWS (i' had before, knew they were great)
- Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 (much hype, horrible in snow compare to DWS and tread wear is insanely high) also luvs bubbling within the year

[Bogiegolf]

I just switched from the Pirelli RFT pieces of crap, although 50,000 miles, but with the rock hard feeling and noisiness due to cupping to Michelins MxMs non RFT and I love the ride and quiet. I did have to purchase the BMW mobility kit and a tire plug kit.....just in case......

[Sireal]

Thanks for all the suggestions. lot to think about. Probably will stay with RFT for this change.

[jbc77]

I just put the Bridgestone Potenza RE960 AS RFTs on our X3. So far I really like them. Vast improvement over the GY Eagle LS2s.

[gIzzE]

I just collected my X3 last week, I was amazed at how poor it rode, especially as I had tracked down an SE on 17's which comes with proper tyres and not run flats in the UK, decided I might as well have gone for a M on 19's as it was so harsh, reminded e of my 535d which was on first gen run flats.

As I got down the road I pulled over to check the tyres, and sure enough the dealer had fitted P7 run flats!!

I made a call, told them I would be back in 30 minutes and please have some proper tyres ready.
They said that they must have just put them on as most BMWs use them now and didn't even consider to look whether the car came with proper tyres from the factory.

The difference between the run flats and the proper tyres was incredible, and is incredibly comfortable.

I will never use run flats again, I have had them on our 535d, 335i, 120d, 123d, 320d touring, 530d GT, 730d and for 1 hour of driving on the X3, and every single time it ruined the car and they were off within a fortnight and replaced with proper tyres.

It isn't just the comfort it ruins but also the handling, the back end skips about on fast corners that are anything other than pool table flat, and they make the car feel less well put together as you feel judder from road surfaces through the steering wheel etc.

The other issue is punctures, I have not had a flat tyre in the last 25 years of driving apart from on run flats, had one on the 535d, one on the 120d and 1 on the 530d GT and they were on those cars for a total of no more than 12 weeks.

I am not saying they are not improving, our F11 520d on 18" run flats was actually pretty damned good, far better than the previous gen cars with them, but still skipped about a bit too much, and didn't soak up pot holes or raised ironworks the way a premium German car should.

I would ditch them, they do ruin our cars and it is not till you have tried proper tyres on them that you realise just how much by.
They are also cheaper, so just buy a can of gunk and a compressor with the money saved. That does the same job as a run flat anyway 9 times out of 10.

[vrrooom]

Originally Posted by The X Men

I would not buy the Good year Eagle LS, they are over-price and does not perform well. I have Pirelli on my wife's X3, they are OK, short tread life though. I am thinking about getting the Conti ProContact for the X3, I have them on my 535i and they perform well in the snow for an all season tire and they are quieter and softer than the GY Eagle LS and the Pirelli.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....r=Base%20Model

Have about 4 K miles on a set of Cont. Pro contact ssr run flats. So far very smooth and quiet, although more expensive than the pirelli's and Bridgestones in the 18" size.

[The X Men]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBNYC

Agreed Cheapyear LS2 are horrible after 11k of use.
ProContact TX SSR are RFT ?
I know someone with ProContact GX SSR and they're new so no test have been done yet on TR.

End Quote

SSR on Conti tire means that it is runflat. I have the Conti pro-contact on my 5 series and they decent tires. The biggest problem I have with runflat is the lack of selection to choose from. There are more runflat choices with the 18" but with the 19", it is very limited.
There are some advantages to switching to conventional tires, but there are disadvantages as well. Safety is a big selling point for runflats, no more getting stranded on the side of the highway or a bad neighborhood and with runflats, one can retain control on a high speed blowout. The advantage of conventional tire would be low cost, a bit softer ride and more tires to choose from.

[gIzzE]

Originally Posted by The X Men

Safety is a big selling point for runflats, no more getting stranded on the side of the highway or a bad neighborhood and with runflats, one can retain control on a high speed blowout. The advantage of conventional tire would be low cost, a bit softer ride and more tires to choose from.

I'm not so sure about this.

I was with a friend on the way to the 'ring in his M3 and he got a blow out, we were doing around 120mph at the time. Sure, you could feel something was seriously up, we slowed down and pulled off the autobahn and there was a 4" gash in the sidewall.
Now, on an old E30, or even E36, I'm sure that could have caused some serious issues, but in his E92 all the electronic traction and dsp kicked in and just made the car feel a bit squishy.

These cars are so advanced I am not sure a blow out is such a big deal as it used to be.

[Roundown]

To me, the biggest problem with run flats is that they're difficult to find in the sizes we run. I had a flat on my 335i a few years back and it took a day and half to replace (in Manhattan). On the other hand, if I was running a non-RFt like the Conti DWS and had a flat anywhere near civilization, that's likely a same-day fix. For either my current summer set (275/40R19r Pirelli P-Zero RFT) or winter set (245/45R19s Dunlop Winter Sport 3Ds), depending on the time of day, it's likely a tomorrow or next day thing.

As for safety, modern non-RFT tires are highly unlikely to experience catastrophic failures. If they did, you'd hear about it (from Audi, MB, Lexus, etc. owners who run non-RFT from the factory). Moreover, if you're worried about being stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time- RFTs will help in a limited set of circumstances, but a catastrophic (for the tire) puncture would likely leave you stranded (without a spare).

Full disclosure, I run RFTs both winter and summer... but am thinking about going non-RFT this summer (w/ a set of DWS').

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by cSurf

To me, the biggest problem with run flats is that they're difficult to find in the sizes we run. I had a flat on my 335i a few years back and it took a day and half to replace (in Manhattan). On the other hand, if I was running a non-RFt like the Conti DWS and had a flat anywhere near civilization, that's likely a same-day fix. For either my current summer set (275/40R19r Pirelli P-Zero RFT) or winter set (245/45R19s Dunlop Winter Sport 3Ds), depending on the time of day, it's likely a tomorrow or next day thing.

As for safety, modern non-RFT tires are highly unlikely to experience catastrophic failures. If they did, you'd hear about it (from Audi, MB, Lexus, etc. owners who run non-RFT from the factory). Moreover, if you're worried about being stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time- RFTs will help in a limited set of circumstances, but a catastrophic (for the tire) puncture would likely leave you stranded (without a spare).

Full disclosure, I run RFTs both winter and summer... but am thinking about going non-RFT this summer (w/ a set of DWS').

I was contemplating on ditching my RFT and to get another RFT but was having a really hard time finding something well balanced All-Season, almost went with Bridgestone Potenza RE960A or Michelin Primacy MXM4 but found my DWS for a much better price and decided to go for that since I have wheel/tire insurance as well.

[barcelona]

Finding suitable RFT, is a time consumer
ROBNYC, in Canada BMW wheel /tire insurance only covers BMW Star approved RFT's, I assume only oem wheels as well. Same applies to winter setup.
I think DWS are non-RFT.

[Roundown]

Originally Posted by barcelona

Finding suitable RFT, is a time consumer
ROBNYC, in Canada BMW wheel /tire insurance only covers BMW Star approved RFT's, I assume only oem wheels as well. Same applies to winter setup.
I think DWS are non-RFT.

That's true- but at just over half the cost of a run flat, if you plan on going DWS (or any non-RFT), you may want to skip the insurance. At going rates, the breakeven on the standard 18"s is something like 2 wheels and 2 tires (or 6 tires); a unlikely outcome for most folks.

Also- I can't help but post this video about the DWS. I ran them on an old X5 and they were amazing.

[The X Men]

Originally Posted by gIzzE

I'm not so sure about this.

I was with a friend on the way to the 'ring in his M3 and he got a blow out, we were doing around 120mph at the time. Sure, you could feel something was seriously up, we slowed down and pulled off the autobahn and there was a 4" gash in the sidewall.
Now, on an old E30, or even E36, I'm sure that could have caused some serious issues, but in his E92 all the electronic traction and dsp kicked in and just made the car feel a bit squishy.

These cars are so advanced I am not sure a blow out is such a big deal as it used to be.

If you have been riding on non-runflat and had a 4 inch gash blowout doing 120 MPH, you may or may not be writing this message right now. There is a good chance those runflats saved your life. Not too many drivers are trained for situations like that, I know for sure that my wife is not, that's one of the reason I kept the runflats on her X3.