UK 3.0d delivery report

X5plug-in · 09-07-2011, 12:49 PM

Actually 1 week but a couple of observations. The sound of the engine does not seem to change but the difference between a cold and hot engine is more than I have seen in any car before. After start, the first miles show about 25mpg but even at the same speed this climbs as soon as the engine warms to 35ish. With careful driving it goes up further to 38ish. This relates to a 20 mins trip with some good hills at 30 - 40mph. At traffic lights (5 sets!) the stop start works perfectly. Hope that helps a bit. Work prevented a longer, faster road trip yet. Oh and the surge of power continues to impress. Overtaking is just effortless and safe as your view is so elevated. Loving it!

rd450 · 09-07-2011, 04:23 PM

Pictures ?!

Ant Man · 09-08-2011, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bustofa

Thanks for the report.
On the emergency repair kit, I'm sure I read somewhere that nowadays the gunk can be washed out allowing a more permanent repair.

Really? All the car mags that I've read where punctures occurr on run-flats, the damage to the side walls means that the tyre cannot be repaired. Very expensive business, if you ask me.

Changing to normal tyres not only brings a massive improvement in handling (for 19" wheels they save almost 5kg a corner) but means the tyre can also be repaired as the side walls are not damaged when squashed.

Ant Man · 09-08-2011, 03:03 AM

X3buyer,

glad you like the engine / auto-box. Is there much lag when backing off throttle at low revs and then accelerating again?

Bustofa · 09-08-2011, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ant Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bustofa

Thanks for the report.
On the emergency repair kit, I'm sure I read somewhere that nowadays the gunk can be washed out allowing a more permanent repair.

Really? All the car mags that I've read where punctures occurr on run-flats, the damage to the side walls means that the tyre cannot be repaired. Very expensive business, if you ask me.

Changing to normal tyres not only brings a massive improvement in handling (for 19" wheels they save almost 5kg a corner) but means the tyre can also be repaired as the side walls are not damaged when squashed.

The original post quoted relates to NON run flats!

X5plug-in · 09-08-2011, 10:51 AM

Ant Man - once the engine is warm lag is really not noticeable. Think the 8 gears react pretty fast plus all that torque. Tested it for you by blitzing a Honda (safely) that was doing 50 and passing after backing off was super safe. Not sure if the performance control is part of this but as it was 17C and sunny the tyres gripped like a limpet. Plus the commanding view helps safety.

X5plug-in · 09-08-2011, 10:56 AM

Looks like this forum does not recognise photos stored on iPhone so looks like I can't attach images :-(

sfax · 09-08-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by X3buyerScotland

Looks like this forum does not recognise photos stored on iPhone so looks like I can't attach images :-(

An iPhone just stores them as jpg format so you should be able to copy from your iPhone to your PC and then upload them by clicking Manage Attachments. I've uploaded quite a few from my iPhone

X5plug-in · 09-08-2011, 12:30 PM

Thanks. So now I need a pc!

Dr Stig 2 · 09-08-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by X3buyerScotland

Thanks. So now I need a pc!

You needed a PC (or Mac) when you first tried to use your iPhone as well.
You can't use an iPhone without first registering it with iTunes on a PC/Mac.

Perhaps you could use the same one as you used then?

OFF TOPIC: I find it hard to believe people could operate without a PC or Mac in their house these days. I have over six in my house right now (of various ages and states of dissuse), not counting the two really crap ones that I leave in the kids tree house for them to play with

Certainly the iPhone app is next to useless for anything but reading posts on this forum.
a) it wont let you add a photo
b) you cant type a plus sign
c) you cant edit or delete a post
d) you cant zoom on embedded pictures
e) you cant browse the emoticons

f) etc...

JOHNBMWM5 · 09-09-2011, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ant Man

Really? All the car mags that I've read where punctures occurr on run-flats, the damage to the side walls means that the tyre cannot be repaired. Very expensive business, if you ask me.

Changing to normal tyres not only brings a massive improvement in handling (for 19" wheels they save almost 5kg a corner) but means the tyre can also be repaired as the side walls are not damaged when squashed.

Here in the UK Michelins are used mostly and they are NO problem, I have had them on new BMW's to list: M6,635D Sport, X6, M3 E90 and this one 550i M Sport no punctures no problems!!!

JOHNBMWM5 · 09-09-2011, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by X3buyerScotland

Actually 1 week but a couple of observations. The sound of the engine does not seem to change but the difference between a cold and hot engine is more than I have seen in any car before. After start, the first miles show about 25mpg but even at the same speed this climbs as soon as the engine warms to 35ish. With careful driving it goes up further to 38ish. This relates to a 20 mins trip with some good hills at 30 - 40mph. At traffic lights (5 sets!) the stop start works perfectly. Hope that helps a bit. Work prevented a longer, faster road trip yet. Oh and the surge of power continues to impress. Overtaking is just effortless and safe as your view is so elevated. Loving it!

I think you have a winner there.

My 550i M Sport starts at 15MPG and climbs to 26MPG after 6 miles, then it's warmed up and goes up to 27/28MPG with normal driving.

Ant Man · 09-09-2011, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X3buyerScotland

Ant Man - once the engine is warm lag is really not noticeable. Think the 8 gears react pretty fast plus all that torque. Tested it for you by blitzing a Honda (safely) that was doing 50 and passing after backing off was super safe. Not sure if the performance control is part of this but as it was 17C and sunny the tyres gripped like a limpet. Plus the commanding view helps safety.

I've sat in but yet to drive the new X3 but would echo your view of the commanding view aiding safety. I think it will also be more fun too

In my opinion the new X3 is a fantastic family car which does most things very well.

clivem2 · 09-09-2011, 11:39 AM

I picked this up today.

It cames with Pirelli P-Zero's, seems like they are good!
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...-Tyre-Test.htm

It came with 8 miles on the clock, It now has 223miles. Coming from a 335i Vert I was sure how I'd feel about the performance. Without going mad with it yet, I'm very pleased with the performance. I don't at all feel bad about not getting the 35D with 12.5% more torque.

Servotronic steering is quite a bit better than the test car I drove without it.

Sports suspension is great, I like a firm ride - it's nicely taught without being harsh. It doesn't roll either.

Economy so far from zero miles is 36 mpg (imperial). The 1st half of my journey was more like 33, the 2nd part saw a big improvement. Very, very pleased so far.

Bustofa · 09-09-2011, 11:55 AM

Very nice!

Ant Man · 09-09-2011, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clivem2

I picked this up today.

It came with 8 miles on the clock, It now has 223miles. Coming from a 335i Vert I was sure how I'd feel about the performance. Without going mad with it yet, I'm very pleased with the performance. I don't at all feel bad about not getting the 35D with 12.5% more torque.

Servotronic steering is quite a bit better than the test car I drove without it.

Sports suspension is great, I like a firm ride - it's nicely taught without being harsh. It doesn't roll either.

Economy so far from zero miles is 36 mpg (imperial). The 1st half of my journey was more like 33, the 2nd part saw a big improvement. Very, very pleased so far.

Lovely

Pls post some pics of the interior and more of the exterior soon.
How does the steering compare to the E93 335i?

clivem2 · 09-09-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ant Man

Lovely

Pls post some pics of the interior and more of the exterior soon.
How does the steering compare to the E93 335i?

I'll take more pics tomorrow....

The steering isn't as good as my E93 but it's quite close or at least closer to the E93 than it is to the X3 SE without VSS that I test drove. Overall I'm happy with the steering, I can feel where the wheels are if I push round a corner.

tank531 · 09-09-2011, 01:05 PM

Black M-sport looks great IMO, nice engine

clivem2 · 09-09-2011, 02:11 PM

Do other UK X3s have the US spec yellow ans white safety notice on both sides of the passenger sun visor? It's really ugly and I"m sure it's not required in the UK.

sfax · 09-09-2011, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clivem2

Do other UK X3s have the US spec yellow ans white safety notice on both sides of the passenger sun visor? It's really ugly and I"m sure it's not required in the UK.

Wasn't one on mine at delivery. Great looking X3 BTW

clivem2 · 09-09-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sfax

Wasn't one on mine at delivery. Great looking X3 BTW

Thanks....sounds like I have a non-uk spec visor. I'll see what the dealer says....I should be able to get a UK one, with some argument.

troggy1969 · 09-10-2011, 07:24 AM

Just changed my order from a 2.0D to a 3.0D after reading this post. All I hope is it will arrive by Christmas!!

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X5plug-in Lieutenant 73 Rep 532 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Actually 1 week but a couple of observations. The sound of the engine does not seem to change but the difference between a cold and hot engine is more than I have seen in any car before. After start, the first miles show about 25mpg but even at the same speed this climbs as soon as the engine warms to 35ish. With careful driving it goes up further to 38ish. This relates to a 20 mins trip with some good hills at 30 - 40mph. At traffic lights (5 sets!) the stop start works perfectly. Hope that helps a bit. Work prevented a longer, faster road trip yet. Oh and the surge of power continues to impress. Overtaking is just effortless and safe as your view is so elevated. Loving it!
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Ant Man Major 75 Rep 1,179 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Individual Edition Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: East Anglia iTrader: (1)	X3buyer, glad you like the engine / auto-box. Is there much lag when backing off throttle at low revs and then accelerating again?
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09-08-2011, 10:51 AM	#28
X5plug-in Lieutenant 73 Rep 532 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Ant Man - once the engine is warm lag is really not noticeable. Think the 8 gears react pretty fast plus all that torque. Tested it for you by blitzing a Honda (safely) that was doing 50 and passing after backing off was super safe. Not sure if the performance control is part of this but as it was 17C and sunny the tyres gripped like a limpet. Plus the commanding view helps safety.
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X5plug-in Lieutenant 73 Rep 532 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Thanks. So now I need a pc!
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09-09-2011, 11:39 AM	#36
clivem2 Colonel 541 Rep 2,073 Posts Drives: X3 M40i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I picked this up today. It cames with Pirelli P-Zero's, seems like they are good! http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...-Tyre-Test.htm It came with 8 miles on the clock, It now has 223miles. Coming from a 335i Vert I was sure how I'd feel about the performance. Without going mad with it yet, I'm very pleased with the performance. I don't at all feel bad about not getting the 35D with 12.5% more torque. Servotronic steering is quite a bit better than the test car I drove without it. Sports suspension is great, I like a firm ride - it's nicely taught without being harsh. It doesn't roll either. Economy so far from zero miles is 36 mpg (imperial). The 1st half of my journey was more like 33, the 2nd part saw a big improvement. Very, very pleased so far. __________________ Current: G01 M40i Silver / Tartufo Previous: E30 318iS, E39 520i 523i 523i, E46 vert 330i 330i, E93 vert 335i, F25 30D 35D Last edited by clivem2; 09-09-2011 at 11:55 AM..
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Bustofa Lieutenant 7 Rep 470 Posts Drives: F25 X3 XDrive20D SE Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Washington, UK iTrader: (0)	Very nice!
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09-09-2011, 01:05 PM	#40
tank531 Deckhand 5 Rep 389 Posts Drives: F25 2.0D SE xDrive (Sep 11) Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Coventry - UK iTrader: (0)	Black M-sport looks great IMO, nice engine
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clivem2 Colonel 541 Rep 2,073 Posts Drives: X3 M40i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Do other UK X3s have the US spec yellow ans white safety notice on both sides of the passenger sun visor? It's really ugly and I"m sure it's not required in the UK. __________________ Current: G01 M40i Silver / Tartufo Previous: E30 318iS, E39 520i 523i 523i, E46 vert 330i 330i, E93 vert 335i, F25 30D 35D
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09-10-2011, 07:24 AM	#44
troggy1969 Lieutenant 55 Rep 554 Posts Drives: 335D MSport 2016 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ludlow iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW 335D MSport [0.00]	Just changed my order from a 2.0D to a 3.0D after reading this post. All I hope is it will arrive by Christmas!!
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