[atrueb]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

If you can do a wheel change yourself (which I hope ), then you can put them on in half an hour and remove before any inspections, etc.

Yeah sure I can change a wheel;-) But I am more worried about insurance issues in case of an accident, if I dont have the correct paperwork confirming, that they are legal. To avoid that, I will need to get them inspected after installation. No big deal and not expensive. Its just a matter of squeezing it into my agenda...

The dude with the black X3 drove past me today. Man, I swear... the stance looks awesome with spacers. Will call my dealership tomorrow and order them

[Ranger 6]

Originally Posted by nonagon

Why is no one commenting on the title of this thread. Anus?

99.9% of people will never notice....

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by atrueb

Yeah sure I can change a wheel;-) But I am more worried about insurance issues in case of an accident, if I dont have the correct paperwork confirming, that they are legal. To avoid that, I will need to get them inspected after installation. No big deal and not expensive. Its just a matter of squeezing it into my agenda...

The dude with the black X3 drove past me today. Man, I swear... the stance looks awesome with spacers. Will call my dealership tomorrow and order them

Holy smokes things are super rigid there!

[atrueb]

Hey y'all, finally got the spacers mounted: 12mm up front and 17mm at the back on each side. Please excuse me for not washing the car before taking pictures. Nevertheless, I would say... definitely pretty cool

[JoeU]

That turned out really nice. Good looking vehicle.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by atrueb

Hey y'all, finally got the spacers mounted: 12mm up front and 17mm at the back on each side. Please excuse me for not washing the car before taking pictures. Nevertheless, I would say... definitely pretty cool

Looks great. I've got a set of 20 mm spacers from my last BMW (535 wagon), which I was going to transfer to the X3 (and buy new bolts for it of course), and I'm guessing if you've got 17mm's on the rear, 20's should work just fine?

Any reason you didn't go 20 on the rear?

[atrueb]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

Looks great. I've got a set of 20 mm spacers from my last BMW (535 wagon), which I was going to transfer to the X3 (and buy new bolts for it of course), and I'm guessing if you've got 17mm's on the rear, 20's should work just fine?

Any reason you didn't go 20 on the rear?

Hi lotus99. I have seen pictures of an F25 with 20mm on the back and nothing in the front... I didn't like it. So if you do 20mm in the back, you really gotta do something upfront aswell or else it will look weird.

I think that you probably won't get much more than 12mm to work in the front though (cause when you steer full lock, the tire is pretty close to the inside of the wheelwell). Keeping that in mind, I didn't want to do so much more in the back, so I figured that 17mm would be fine. I also did not want to do too much, so I chose 17mm. Furthermore, the 20mm are a different system and more expensive (you screw the spacers on the hub, and then the wheel to the spacers; while everything under 20mm is mounted with longer screws.)

Hope that helps;-) You should go ahead and try the 20mm and buy 12mm for the front. Please post some pics, when you mount those 20mm.

Cheers.

[atrueb]

Originally Posted by JoeU

That turned out really nice. Good looking vehicle.

Thanks dude;-)

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by atrueb

Hi lotus99. I have seen pictures of an F25 with 20mm on the back and nothing in the front... I didn't like it. So if you do 20mm in the back, you really gotta do something upfront aswell or else it will look weird.

I think that you probably won't get much more than 12mm to work in the front though (cause when you steer full lock, the tire is pretty close to the inside of the wheelwell). Keeping that in mind, I didn't want to do so much more in the back, so I figured that 17mm would be fine. I also did not want to do too much, so I chose 17mm. Furthermore, the 20mm are a different system and more expensive (you screw the spacers on the hub, and then the wheel to the spacers; while everything under 20mm is mounted with longer screws.)

Hope that helps;-) You should go ahead and try the 20mm and buy 12mm for the front. Please post some pics, when you mount those 20mm.

Cheers.

Thanks for the quick reply. On my 2010 535 wagon with 18" wheels, I measured how much is the gap from the tire to the outer edge of the fender to see how wide I could go, and it was 12 mm in the front and 30 mm in the rear. I was surprised how much more the rear wheels on that car tuck inside.

So I just went with 20mm in the rear only, which basically ended up making all 4 corners even, in terms of how much tuck from the fender.

I've not measured my X3 yet, to see what it would be like just to go 20 in the rear, or if I should do the fronts too, because if I do the front, I'd do 12's or maybe 10's, if the hub lip allows me. Not larger.

You're mistaken that the 20mm spacers require to be bolted on. Mine didn't, Turner Motorsports (well known BMW performance shop) and H&R's don't either:

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-55...0-f13-f25.aspx

The 25mm ones and up require to be bolted on:

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-55...3-f25-f30.aspx

[atrueb]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

You're mistaken that the 20mm spacers require to be bolted on. Mine didn't, Turner Motorsports (well known BMW performance shop) and H&R's don't either:

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-55...0-f13-f25.aspx

The 25mm ones and up require to be bolted on:

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-55...3-f25-f30.aspx

Aha, that's interesting. The models available here in Switzerland are different in that case. Cheers

[Tjalle]

I agree that vehicles look nice with spacers - and also - in theory - it will add to cornering capability. With my 20" and lowered vehicle I don`t need better cornering.

But grip? I take it is meant to be longitudinal grip=acceleration. I can see no reason for improving grip with wider stance!?

[atrueb]

Originally Posted by Tjalle

But grip? I take it is meant to be longitudinal grip=acceleration. I can see no reason for improving grip with wider stance!?

I suppose that wider stance won't give more longitudinal grip on an 4wd. However it probably would give a rwd car better traction, as the rear won't break out as much.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by atrueb

Aha, that's interesting. The models available here in Switzerland are different in that case. Cheers

Especially since H&R's are from Germany...

[Mr Comfort]

hey folks just a quick observation, the spacers do make the truck look fantastic but do you get a lot more debris kicked up on the paint from the tires?

[atrueb]

Probably yes, but since I'm an asphalt-cowboy, debris aren't too much of an issue for me. Actually my previous car had a much wider stance.... Never noticed any damage to the paint on that car.

[Lotus99]

And if you're that worried, you could put some clear paint protection film around there. But as you say, I don't think unless you're flush with the fender or outside of it, you'll notice much difference.

[Lotus99]

So I've measured the space from the outer part of the tire (I've got 19's) to the edge of the fender, i.e. how far they're tucked in, and this is what I came up with:

FRONT: 17 mm
REAR: 25 mm

So with 20 mm spacers in the rear, and 12 mm up front, it will reduce the tuck to an even 5 mm front and rear.

I'll be ordering my set in the next few weeks!

[atrueb]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

So I've measured the space from the outer part of the tire (I've got 19's) to the edge of the fender, i.e. how far they're tucked in, and this is what I came up with:

FRONT: 17 mm
REAR: 25 mm

So with 20 mm spacers in the rear, and 12 mm up front, it will reduce the tuck to an even 5 mm front and rear.

I'll be ordering my set in the next few weeks!

I'm sure you will like the enhanhanced look! I am definitely still loving the more aggressive look with my spacer setup:-)

[pookguy]

Can someone help clarify if I need to get new bolts or they come w/ the spacers? Looks like a cheap mod I am considering...

[atrueb]

Originally Posted by pookguy

Can someone help clarify if I need to get new bolts or they come w/ the spacers? Looks like a cheap mod I am considering...

You will need longer bolts for spacers under 20mm. Spacers over 20mm use a different system: the spacer is bolted to the lug, and the wheel onto the spacer (instead of lug)

[atrueb]

Here's a nice pic without spacers (white) and with spacers (black)

My verdict... "GOOD"

[ba ba boosh]

ANUS!