[goals92]

Anyone take delivery on the 28d yet? I have seen the others in showrooms but not this one. Anyone have any sense of timing in the US?

[tuatua]

I have a production date the first week of June. Planning to take a Performance Center delivery of our 28d the 3rd or 4th week of Jun. Can't wait!

[goals92]

Anyone who was in the initial production run place an order and receive it yet? I was in the initial run and still waiting for delivery after being told second week of April.

[ibleedgarnet]

Do we have the official MPG #s for the 28d yet?

[goals92]

Originally Posted by ibleedgarnet

Do we have the official MPG #s for the 28d yet?

Preliminary numbers are 28/34. I would guess they'll be a bit higher in final form (Euro cycle is 38/47, and doing the ratio math vs. 328d gets you to about 30/36).

Still hoping there's someone out there with a 28d order who has some info on shipping delays, please.

[FSociety]

BMW needs to give us a 35d as well, I hope the 28d does good MPG numbers otherwise I might have to look at the Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel 240hp/420lb-torque

[Kevinesullivan]

I have a production number for the X3 28d 2015 model and the tracking says its in production. Got info that they are still waiting for EPA and CARB certs and nothing will be delivered until this is received.
Does anyone know if this is a big issue and if I should cancel my order?

[goals92]

Originally Posted by Kevinesullivan

I have a production number for the X3 28d 2015 model and the tracking says its in production. Got info that they are still waiting for EPA and CARB certs and nothing will be delivered until this is received.
Does anyone know if this is a big issue and if I should cancel my order?

Where did you get that information from?

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by Kevinesullivan

I have a production number for the X3 28d 2015 model and the tracking says its in production. Got info that they are still waiting for EPA and CARB certs and nothing will be delivered until this is received.
Does anyone know if this is a big issue and if I should cancel my order?

Why would you want to cancel your order ?
Waiting a little for certification, especially US certification is nothing out of the ordinary for new engines.

BMW will just stockpile the cars until the day certification is granted and then deliver them on mass to customers.
Happens all the time.

[goals92]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

Why would you want to cancel your order ?
Waiting a little for certification, especially US certification is nothing out of the ordinary for new engines.

BMW will just stockpile the cars until the day certification is granted and then deliver them on mass to customers.
Happens all the time.

Sorry, but:

1. Why do you think there is a certification holdup? This is not a new engine; it's the engine that was used in the 328d last year.

2. Assuming there is a certification holdup, has anyone had any experience with how long these delays generally go? My delivery was scheduled for over 2 weeks ago. Why would they schedule a delivery if there was a known holdup on certification?

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by goals92

Sorry, but:

1. Why do you think there is a certification holdup? This is not a new engine; it's the engine that was used in the 328d last year.

2. Assuming there is a certification holdup, has anyone had any experience with how long these delays generally go? My delivery was scheduled for over 2 weeks ago. Why would they schedule a delivery if there was a known holdup on certification?

1) 328d uses the old N47 which is about to be replaced by the B47. Rest of the world X3 have been confirmed will get the new B47, waiting for parts system change at beginning of next month to confirm is US is getting B47.

Since there is a holdup I would think it is.


2) The US authorities seem to like holding things up suddenly with new engines. But its usually just been a few weeks when looking at past BMW engine launches.

Doesnt your dealership have a updated delivery date for you ?

[goals92]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

1) 328d uses the old N47 which is about to be replaced by the B47. Rest of the world X3 have been confirmed will get the new B47, waiting for parts system change at beginning of next month to confirm is US is getting B47.

Since there is a holdup I would think it is.


2) The US authorities seem to like holding things up suddenly with new engines. But its usually just been a few weeks when looking at past BMW engine launches.

Doesnt your dealership have a updated delivery date for you ?

My dealership has been completely unhelpful unfortunately. That's why I'm posting here and hoping someone else has information from a credible source as to what's happening. To my dealership's credit I'm sure BMW has not been completely forthcoming with what's going on, but this is very frustrating.

My car is already built and waiting to be shipped, so it doesn't seem like there is any engine update like the rest of the world. The holdup could be EPA but it's not because this is a new engine unless BMW put a new engine in my car (and presumably other 28d that had early April delivery dates) and subsequently is trying to get approved, but this seems bizarre to me.

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by goals92

My car is already built and waiting to be shipped, so it doesn't seem like there is any engine update like the rest of the world. The holdup could be EPA but it's not because this is a new engine unless BMW put a new engine in my car (and presumably other 28d that had early April delivery dates) and subsequently is trying to get approved, but this seems bizarre to me.

The new engine entered production months ago for pre-release test cars and press cars, so yours can easily have the engine.

Maybe give BMW USA a call directly, others have found them helpful at times.


Red tape and paperwork is a problem for any manufacturer. This is not the first or last time this has happened.

[goals92]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

The new engine entered production months ago for pre-release test cars and press cars, so yours can easily have the engine.

Maybe give BMW USA a call directly, others have found them helpful at times.


Red tape and paperwork is a problem for any manufacturer. This is not the first or last time this has happened.

Thanks. Helpful and logical thoughts, and it sounds like you are right.

The sales manager at my dealership did get back to me today and offered some info. It sounds like you are right: there is an EPA holdup on the engine and no clear date of resolution. He mentioned a 1-2 week time frame (from today), but didn't sound certain. I hope this is helpful to anyone else waiting for a diesel!

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by goals92

Thanks. Helpful and logical thoughts, and it sounds like you are right.

The sales manager at my dealership did get back to me today and offered some info. It sounds like you are right: there is an EPA holdup on the engine and no clear date of resolution. He mentioned a 1-2 week time frame (from today), but didn't sound certain. I hope this is helpful to anyone else waiting for a diesel!

Goodluck, I know how agonizing the wait can be. But it will be worth it

[goals92]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

Goodluck, I know how agonizing the wait can be. But it will be worth it

Thanks. I posted this elsewhere but thought it might be helpful: http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/..._u2_diesel.pdf

CARB has finally approved the X3 28d's engine as of 4/21. And of course they did, since it's the same engine from last year (N47) that was used in the 328d already and was already approved last year. Not sure what the holdup was, but this should resolve the backup of vehicles at Spartanburg (or one would hope).

[ingenieur]

Originally Posted by goals92

Thanks. I posted this elsewhere but thought it might be helpful: http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/..._u2_diesel.pdf

CARB has finally approved the X3 28d's engine as of 4/21. And of course they did, since it's the same engine from last year (N47) that was used in the 328d already and was already approved last year. Not sure what the holdup was, but this should resolve the backup of vehicles at Spartanburg (or one would hope).

It is not only the engine - it is the entire vehicle.

[JasonX4MComp]

We just got in our first X3 28d

[lhsa]

What's the MPG numbers from the sticker?

Originally Posted by Jason335iMsport

We just got in our first X3 28d

[JasonX4MComp]

Originally Posted by lhsa

What's the MPG numbers from the sticker?

27/34

[mrmeyer]

If I order one this weekend, when do you think I can pick it up? End of June?

[todd92]

Originally Posted by Jason335iMsport

27/34

Not worth the performance hit then. We get 28 hwy in our 3.5.