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      09-25-2015, 06:50 AM   #45
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We also need to be sure the rules work as intended. If the tests bear little relation to real-world driving then the tests will have to change. It's all very well passing tests but the objective is to clean up our environment.

If anything comes out of this fiasco hopefully it will be a sensible testing regime. That said, if this leads to electric cars needing to be charged from mains power....then I hope we don't increase NOx production at power plants. Also the UK is getting marginal on generating capacity.
I hope the test becomes realistic across a wide range of use, but have my reservations, due to the issue of 'backwards compatibility' that seems to have been one of the issues with agreeing on new test procedures.

There will need to be a recognition (from all parties involved) that CO2 levels are way off of any existing targets and agreements. As I see it, something will have to give, or it will be difficult to get to a realistic model of the "WLTP" regime.

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      09-26-2015, 12:31 AM   #46
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No further attacks on BMW . VW is in deep shit.

Good to know: Die Schweiz (Switzerland, CH) has put a ban on those VW models tested with foul software- they are not allowed to be sold. CH is not a member of EU (European Union), so they have their own laws - which I dont know. It has not been established if the software will also have an impact on EU-tests.
Norway is also outside of EU, but since they have oil, they will not kill its customers.

CH makes its money from Cuckoo clocks (and watches) and is independent.

The new test method - WLTP - is being pushed through the system, at EU speed
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      10-05-2015, 08:20 AM   #47
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BMW EMISSIONS SCANDAL? BMW CAN 'FLATLY RULE THAT OUT'

http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/20...-scandal.shtml
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      10-05-2015, 11:20 AM   #48
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Yes, BMW seem to be in the clear - although some "bad guys" (newspapers) are reporting results from the proposed, and tougher test -WLTP - where most, even BMW:s, are above current legal limits, and hence claim that they have "illegal exhaust levels" - which of corse is bull.
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