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      08-22-2013, 03:29 PM   #1
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Did anyone run these 18" Michellin tires last winter?

I'm starting to look at snow tires and saw these on tire rack. I saw that people ran the Pirelli Sotozero's. If you did run the Michellin's, how was the ride? They are rated a performance winter/snow.
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      08-22-2013, 10:06 PM   #2
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I ran Nokian which were very good, but I had no issues with Michelin's prior to that, always liked them.
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In Finnish car magazines and winter tyre tests usually these three are the best:

Nokian
Continental (ex. Gislaved)
Michelin

So I guess if you take any of those as snow tyres, they are at least good.

Of course I would recommend Nokian tyres which are usually the winners (and Finnish) but choosing Michelin or Continental is not bad idea either.

Upcoming winter tests for tyres are not yet published, I can post the results on the forum when they are published.
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I have them on my second car, a Nissan Note. They are really good, comfortable, and really good in slush. Again that's on a Nissan Note.
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The 18" Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2 ZP's are the winter tire I use on my 2011 X3 35i here in Nebraska. I'm very happy with them. Their ride is just fine -- no discernible difference from the stock Pirelli P7 all-seasons (which I've found to be very good tire). On dry pavement, the PA2's preserve the X3's excellent handling, so they're a perfect choice if you have mostly clear roads in the winter with occasional snow storms.

During a 10" snow fall last winter I took them out on unplowed, hilly streets and they were a champ. They're not as good on ice as a more aggressive winter tire, but that's so they can perform better on dry or wet pavement.
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I ran Nokian which were very good, but I had no issues with Michelin's prior to that, always liked them.
Thanks all for the responses.
I was looking at the Nokian website briefly but didn't see 245/50R18 size listed. BeeMdblU what Nokian model did you use and what was the size? Thanks.
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Thanks all for the responses.
I was looking at the Nokian website briefly but didn't see 245/50R18 size listed. BeeMdblU what Nokian model did you use and what was the size? Thanks.
I have the hakkapelita 7 in 245,50 18
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Thanks all for the responses.
I was looking at the Nokian website briefly but didn't see 245/50R18 size listed. BeeMdblU what Nokian model did you use and what was the size? Thanks.
http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=1...me=Nokian+WRG2
I had 3 sets of the all season non-run flats on non-BMW's. There were great.
I did not get the dedicated winters Hakkapeliitta.
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I have the hakkapelita 7 in 245,50 18
No can do....these are studded. I've been on the Nokian website poking around and it looks like I need the R2. I have to call a local dealer to find out more about them.
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http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=1...me=Nokian+WRG2
I had 3 sets of the all season non-run flats on non-BMW's. There were great.
I did not get the dedicated winters Hakkapeliitta.
I like the added assurance of having a winter tire since I'm hoping to be driving in snowy, mountainous conditions.
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my H7's are not studded, maybe it's new for this year. The R2 looks good too.
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I used the BMW winter wheel and tire package fitted with Pirelli Winter 240 Sottozero Serie II tires.

In my opinion the Pirelli tires were about equal to a set of good all season tires... not much better.

When the Pireliis are used up I'll likely go to Blizzaks.
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I used the BMW winter wheel and tire package fitted with Pirelli Winter 240 Sottozero Serie II tires.

In my opinion the Pirelli tires were about equal to a set of good all season tires... not much better.
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I used the BMW winter wheel and tire package fitted with Pirelli Winter 240 Sottozero Serie II tires.

In my opinion the Pirelli tires were about equal to a set of good all season tires... not much better.

When the Pireliis are used up I'll likely go to Blizzaks.
I think the Sotozero's haven't gotten great reviews here so that's why I'm thinking of either Nokian or Michellin. The Michellin Alpin PA2 seems to be more of a performance/winter tire than the Blizzak. Not sure if the Blizzaks can be had as RFT though. Still not sure which way I'm going to go on that one..RTF or not. I don't know much about the Nokian's but they seem to have a good reputation as a winter tire.
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I run the PA4s in the winter, just as smooth of a ride as the stock run-flat all-seasons.
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nokians are one of the best winter tires around
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I run the PA4s in the winter, just as smooth of a ride as the stock run-flat all-seasons.
Aren't the PA4's the non run-flat Michellin's? Do you have a spare or compressor and fix a flat kit?
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I don't know much about the Nokian's but they seem to have a good reputation as a winter tire.
Because they are Finnish!

Normal winter day in the country of Nokian (and Nokia), the video is from my car (X3):



See how all cars are driving normally, not getting stuck anywhere, even RWD and FWD cars. It is because they all have dedicated winter tyres, most of them have Nokians.

We do not have "snow days" in here, never. Not even at the airport:





disclaimer: I am not saying there aren't places with even worse conditions during winter.

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Aren't the PA4's the non run-flat Michellin's? Do you have a spare or compressor and fix a flat kit?
I have the pa4s as well. I have a vaiair compressor, tpms safe slime kit, patch kit, and AAA. When my ls2s are done ill be switching to Bridgestone s04 or pilot ss.
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So Rodion...which Nokian winter tire did you have on your X3? I'm hoping to see alot more of that white stuff this year.
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I have the pa4s as well. I have a vaiair compressor, tpms safe slime kit, patch kit, and AAA. When my ls2s are done ill be switching to Bridgestone s04 or pilot ss.
Having a non-RFT is a possibility. still have time to think about it. I have AAA but probably would increase my plan.
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So Rodion...which Nokian winter tire did you have on your X3? I'm hoping to see alot more of that white stuff this year.

Nokian Hakkapeliitta 7 with studs.

Even though in this case with snow like that, there is no use for the studs.
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