[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by kozzi

If you could post the inside info, that would be great. I hope you are wrong on the 335hp number but your logic makes sense.

Please refer to this thread for future model discussion:

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686

"* 2018 BMW X3: 30i will have the same power as other existing x30i (252hp), while M40i will have 335hp."

[mookie45]

WTH I really hope BMW doesn't do this.

[Transfer]

If M40i only has 335 horsepower it better cost $5k less than the competitors. Currently an optioned 2017 X3 35i is only a couple thousand less than an optioned 2018 SQ5 which is ludicrous.

[kozzi]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Please refer to this thread for future model discussion:

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686

"* 2018 BMW X3: 30i will have the same power as other existing x30i (252hp), while M40i will have 335hp."

Yes thank you. I have read through this thread many times before and hope it is not entirely accurate. I thought maybe you had other inside information.

In any case, I guess BMW thinks B58 @335hp is better than N55 @355hp.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by kozzi

Yes thank you. I have read through this thread many times before and hope it is not entirely accurate. I thought maybe you had other inside information.

Nevertheless, ynguldyn's information is typically very accurate - over 90% I'd say. So, this information should be quite reliable.

[SANK_CH]

Hi,

I still don't get why you believe M40i will have only 335hp instead of the 360hp that the X4 M40i has actually. There is no reason for bmw to bring on the market a new generation model which replace an older one, with less HP, and even more in the M Performance segment.

sank

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by SANK_CH

Hi,

I still don't get why you believe M40i will have only 335hp instead of the 360hp that the X4 M40i has actually.

Are you not willing to read my responses in this thread? If you read them then you will understand exactly why I believe the X3 M40i will use the current B58B30O0 engine. You may not agree with me - that's your prerogative, and everyone is entitled to their own belief system. However, you will at least understand my position. Please take the time to read the thread - it contains a wealth of valuable information.

There is no reason for bmw to bring on the market a new generation model which replace an older one, with less HP, and even more in the M Performance segment.

The reality is that the G01 X3 M40i will replace the F25 X3 35i. The new model will have 35hp more if it is powered by the B58 in question. So you're not working with the facts there. Please properly inform yourself first, and then come up with conclusions from there.

[autopal]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Are you not willing to read my responses in this thread? If you read them then you will understand exactly why I believe the X3 M40i will use the current B58B30O0 engine. You may not agree with me - that's your prerogative, and everyone is entitled to their own believe system. However, you will at least understand my position. Please take the time to read the thread - it contains a wealth of valuable information.



The reality is that the G01 X3 M40i will replace the F25 X3 35i. The new model will have 35hp more if it is powered by the B58 in question. So you're not working with the facts there. Please properly inform yourself first, and then come up with conclusions from there.

Whatever facts you are working with is incorrect. It will have the same power as the X4 M40i, which is 360hp. I don't know why you would think otherwise, and keep relying on guesses in old threads

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by autopal

Whatever facts you are working with is incorrect. It will have the same power as the X4 M40i, which is 360hp.

You have not provided any source for these claims. You are flat out guessing, plain and simple.

I don't know why you would think otherwise, and keep relying on guesses in old threads

I'm relying on inside information which has proven itself to be reliable in the past.

[emranc]

have u guys seen this?
https://www.bmwhk.com/en/all-models/...rformance.html

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by emranc

have u guys seen this?
https://www.bmwhk.com/en/all-models/...rformance.html

Yes. I replied in the other thread where it was posted originally.

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=21

Unfortunately, I don't have moderator access to this forum, because it would benefit us all if these posts were consolidated to one thread.

[SANK_CH]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Are you not willing to read my responses in this thread? If you read them then you will understand exactly why I believe the X3 M40i will use the current B58B30O0 engine. You may not agree with me - that's your prerogative, and everyone is entitled to their own belief system. However, you will at least understand my position. Please take the time to read the thread - it contains a wealth of valuable information.



The reality is that the G01 X3 M40i will replace the F25 X3 35i. The new model will have 35hp more if it is powered by the B58 in question. So you're not working with the facts there. Please properly inform yourself first, and then come up with conclusions from there.

Here are the facts:
1) i owned 3 years X3 35i
2) then replaced it 2015 with a X4 35i
3) and since 2016, I own a X4 M40i which has 360hp.....

Look at the leaked info on Bmw HK and:
I m correct
Your valuable info are wrong

Cheers

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by SANK_CH

Here are the facts:
1) i owned 3 years X3 35i
2) then replaced it 2015 with a X4 35i
3) and since 2016, I own a X4 M40i which has 360hp.....

Right, but the X4 is not an X3 though.

Look at the leaked info on Bmw HK and:
I m correct
Your valuable info are wrong

Yep, I've seen that leak. However, as you well know, that surfaced after your first post on the matter. That info may very well prove to be true, but until that leak there was absolutely nothing to substantiate the 360hp claims. It was pure guesswork.

In any case, I hope BMW HK is correct.

[autopal]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Right, but the X4 is not an X3 though.



Yep, I've seen that leak. However, as you well know, that surfaced after your first post on the matter. That info may very well prove to be true, but until that leak there was absolutely nothing to substantiate the 360hp claims. It was pure guesswork.

Either way, I hope BMW HK is correct.

It would be nice if you would just man up and admit you were wrong, without trying to justify your incorrect position. None of us are on BMW's board, so most of the posts on these boards are guess work. My position is what you can call an educated guess based on 1) BMW already sells a version of the B58 with 355hp, and 2) we already knew the X4 M40i had 360hp. So your logic just didn't make sense, and it was foolish of you to try pass your opinion as fact, based on old threads, especially when recent info and logic was suggesting otherwise. By the way, the 360hp was just confirmed to me by my dealer here in Canada.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by autopal

It would be nice if you would just man up and admit you were wrong, without trying to justify your incorrect position.

I'll happily do that once the vehicle is officially announced. No sooner.

Edit: http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showpo...80&postcount=2

None of us are on BMW's board, so most of the posts on these boards are guess work.

Right. Except that inside information is a real thing, and some sources have proven themselves, so speculation based on those is generally very reliable.

My position is what you can call an educated guess based on 1) BMW already sells a version of the B58 with 355hp, and 2) we already knew the X4 M40i had 360hp.

And as I've already pointed out, the X4 is irrelevant, and guessing future model specs based on past models or competitors' models has proven to be faulty in the past.

So your logic just didn't make sense, and it was foolish of you to try pass your opinion as fact,

I did absolutely no such thing. Please refrain from making baseless accusations such as this.

In fact, I said very clearly, ynguldyn's information is typically very reliable, but I made it clear it was not 100%.

especially when recent info and logic was suggesting otherwise.

Again, your "recent info", up until the BMW HK leak - was literally 100% guesses. There was zero inside information pointing toward 360hp. None. Nothing.

By the way, the 360hp was just confirmed to me by my dealer here in Canada.

Great. And that adds absolutely nothing as far as reliability. We've had countless posts over the years from people getting misinformation from dealerships. Dealerships are generally the last to know.

[autopal]

[QUOTE=mkoesel;21869263]I'll happily do that once the vehicle is officially announced. No sooner. :thumbsup

And as I've already pointed out, the X4 is irrelevant, and guessing future model specs based on past models or competitors' models has proven to be faulty in the past.


This line of argument is ridiculous, the The X4 is related to the X3 in terms of chassis, powertrain, etc. Similar to the 3 and 4 series sharing powertrain, and also X5 and X6. Mercedes GLC and GLC coupe, same powertrain and chassis, everybody does it, so by this logic, one would expecting the X3 to mimic the X4 in terms of engine output, etc, so the X4 specs being irrelevant, don't make me laugh

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by autopal

don't make me laugh

Please rejoin the discussion when you are willing to do so in a mature manner.

[SANK_CH]

There is only one spec change in the engine based on bmw hk website. Torque is not anymore 450 nm but now 500 nm like on the M2.

[augerpro]

Anyone have the order guide for the base model?

[ChicagoNorthShore]

Originally Posted by augerpro

Anyone have the order guide for the base model?

I was wondering about this as well.

[dcorn]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Please rejoin the discussion when you are willing to do so in a mature manner.

I still haven't seen you admit that you were wrong after all that arguing

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by dcorn

I still haven't seen you admit that you were wrong after all that arguing

Then you should have read a bit more more carefully. I did so immediately as the numbers became public knowledge, and edited post #59 with a link to my statement.

It's all good, nobody gets it 100% of the time.