[cadman50]

and if you like having the sunroof open on nice days and getting that open air feeling, don't get the Evoque. the pano roof is nice but it's a big mistake not to be able to open it. I was exited to test drive the Evoque when it first came out. But left really disappointed. I expected much much more from it.

[Snowman73]

I too looked at the Evoque before buying my X3. I pass an Evoque walking to work every day and I must say I do prefer the X3 as the Evoque seems squashed and it looks cramped. There is much less space in the RR and performance is no where near the X3. I am very happy with my X3. Now I can put it in sport mode - it is extremely quick - faster than most things on the road. I must say I have not had any of the issues people mention above, but I bought the more expensive M-sport and I believe it may use slightly different components. IMHO if you compare the top model to the base model in any car the top model always feels a lot better swcrewed together. One thing I will say is that the xenon's/LED's on BMW's with angel eyes look far superior to the led's on any other make. Citroen/Kia etc and other makes are now doing the led clusters like Audi so they all look quite cheap now. Well done BMW for waiting. My LED daylights and Xenons are superb (IMHO :-) )
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[plymjack]

Originally Posted by Snowman73

..... but I bought the more expensive M-sport and I believe it may use slightly different components. IMHO if you compare the top model to the base model in any car the top model always feels a lot better swcrewed together. .....
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I dont think there are any component differences between the SE and M spec other than Firmer suspension settings, 19-inch light-alloy wheels, the M short-shifter gear lever, an M multi-function leather steering wheel ,gearshift paddles, and full colour body trimming. - which for the £2000 cost is good value... so I think they are all screwed together the same.

[Snowman73]

Originally Posted by plymjack

I dont think there are any component differences between the SE and M spec other than Firmer suspension settings, 19-inch light-alloy wheels, the M short-shifter gear lever, an M multi-function leather steering wheel ,gearshift paddles, and full colour body trimming. - which for the £2000 cost is good value... so I think they are all screwed together the same.

I do sort of agree with you, but most of the complaints seem to come from people with an SE as opposed to Msport - just an observation, but someone else will likely put me in my place. For the record - I love my car - and am glad I did not buy the RR.

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[The X Men]

Originally Posted by Snowman73

I must say I have not had any of the issues people mention above, but I bought the more expensive M-sport and I believe it may use slightly different components.

Now thats the best reason I have heard for buying the M-Sport so far The reason why there seems to be less problem associated with the M-sport is because there are so few of them out there. As a guess, I would one out of every 20 X3 is M-Sport.

[ilumo]

Originally Posted by Snowman73

I too looked at the Evoque before buying my X3. I pass an Evoque walking to work every day and I must say I do prefer the X3 as the Evoque seems squashed and it looks cramped. There is much less space in the RR and performance is no where near the X3. I am very happy with my X3. Now I can put it in sport mode - it is extremely quick - faster than most things on the road. I must say I have not had any of the issues people mention above, but I bought the more expensive M-sport and I believe it may use slightly different components. IMHO if you compare the top model to the base model in any car the top model always feels a lot better swcrewed together. One thing I will say is that the xenon's/LED's on BMW's with angel eyes look far superior to the led's on any other make. Citroen/Kia etc and other makes are now doing the led clusters like Audi so they all look quite cheap now. Well done BMW for waiting. My LED daylights and Xenons are superb (IMHO :-) )
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2013 X3 M-sport Deep Sea Blue, Black Leather, Xenons, DIRAC Professional Sound sytem, Pro Nav, 19" Wheels, Tinted windows, Folding Mirrors, PDC, ASS, DAB Radio, Aluminium trim inc roof bars

ended up getting an evoque dynamic. could not resist


im sure im making compromises in performance, but some of the intangibles were superior on the RRE in my opinion

[The X Men]

Are you a star war storm trooper fan?

[ilumo]

Originally Posted by The X Men

Are you a star war storm trooper fan?

why not. they are bad ass

[ilumo]

Originally Posted by The X Men

Are you a star war storm trooper fan?

this looks like a female storm trooper

[The X Men]

Here is a recent comparo between the X3, Evogue and the Q5. The poor Evogue cannot even beat out the 4 cylinder X3 and Q5.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test

[lbjgh]

Congrats, the baby RR is a unique ride! Care to share some additional pics for us guys who shopped the evoque before settling on the X3?

p.s. I still think the RR looks better than my X3 but my X3 is nicer to drive!

Originally Posted by ilumo

ended up getting an evoque dynamic. could not resist

im sure im making compromises in performance, but some of the intangibles were superior on the RRE in my opinion

[ilumo]

Originally Posted by The X Men

Here is a recent comparo between the X3, Evogue and the Q5. The poor Evogue cannot even beat out the 4 cylinder X3 and Q5.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test

Agreed. street performance wise, the RRE sucks. off road, its decent. like I said, to each their own.

[ilumo]

Originally Posted by lbjgh

Congrats, the baby RR is a unique ride! Care to share some additional pics for us guys who shopped the evoque before settling on the X3?

p.s. I still think the RR looks better than my X3 but my X3 is nicer to drive!

I'm loving the technology in the RRE too. the Meridian 825W sound system is a beauty too. Blows my 335xi Logic 7 system away by miles. Not sure about the x3 prem though.

here's a couple other "stock" shots. im going to do a little work to her soon

and

[JimmyTheHand]

Originally Posted by ilumo

im sure im making compromises in performance, but some of the intangibles were superior on the RRE in my opinion

Headroom seem lacking in Evoque - which was a instant stop for me (headroom and access main reasons I have SUV )

[The X Men]

Originally Posted by lbjgh

Congrats, the baby RR is a unique ride! Care to share some additional pics for us guys who shopped the evoque before settling on the X3?

p.s. I still think the RR looks better than my X3 but my X3 is nicer to drive!

I am speaking for myself here, I certainly did not settle for the X3. My X3 35i is pretty similar in price as the Evoque, but the Ford 2.0L turbo engine is simply no match for the BMW N55 engine. Look wise, I think the X3 will definitely age better than the Evogue simply because it is not such a radical design. We seriously consider the Evogue, but in the end, the X3 pretty beat out the Evouge in every catagories with the exception of maybe the exterior design, one can say the Evogue as a whole, is design for form over function.

[lbjgh]

Hey X... "settling" was an unfortunate selection of words on my part.

[buze]

I can't help thinking I'm looking at robocop's ass when I see an evoque. I don't know why, but it's looks like a 80's film notion of "modernity"

[ilumo]

Originally Posted by buze

I can't help thinking I'm looking at robocop's ass when I see an evoque. I don't know why, but it's looks like a 80's film notion of "modernity"

lol. maybe thats where the designers got the cues from

[ReturnZero]

Man that looks seriously good. I sure do love the way it looks on the inside and out.

The premium sound in the X3 isn't great. There's a good chance you got a better sound system in the RR.

[ilumo]

Originally Posted by ReturnZero

Man that looks seriously good. I sure do love the way it looks on the inside and out.

The premium sound in the X3 isn't great. There's a good chance you got a better sound system in the RR.

Love the interior and how RR has the nice contrast stitching, even on the dash. yea the premium sound didnt impress me much on the 3 series. maybe the higher end bimmers are better. the meridian is pretty darn impressive for a factory system though.
if i were to buy, I would probably not chance the RR, and go with the x3, but leasing, i have the warranty, and peace of mind