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      03-06-2012, 04:42 PM   #1
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Officially anounced no X3M

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At least for this generation.....
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      03-06-2012, 04:55 PM   #2
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That sucks. I was hoping to see the M guys put some crazy motor into the thing like an inline 6 with 3 turbos.
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      03-06-2012, 05:07 PM   #3
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So unfair. There is a x5m and x6m, why not have an m badge for the cuv x3? It's retarded.
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      03-06-2012, 06:26 PM   #4
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Well, it justifies my choice to build a 2012 35i M Sport with DHP
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      03-06-2012, 07:06 PM   #5
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So unfair. There is a x5m and x6m, why not have an m badge for the cuv x3? It's retarded.
Unfair? Retarded? Not much of an over-reaction.....
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That they have any SUV M cars at all is a total joke.
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      03-06-2012, 10:41 PM   #7
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I can imagine many M3 owners and M suv haters would be pissed if BMW really ended up using the tri-turbo engine that's suppose to be in the next gen M3. If they used the N54 it won't meet mpg/emission laws in the near future and the N55 is known to produce weaker power figures than the N54 if trying to tune so that really only leaves the option of the tri-turbo being developed.

Many people talk about how making more M cars especially suvs would "dilute the brand" but TBH many owners of M cars won't be tracking their vehicles, they'll use it as daily drivers. Performance wise, both cars using the same N63 engine the X5M has the same 0-60 as the new M5's at 4.5s even though the M5 uses a 7-speed dual clutch versus the X5M's 6-speed auto; I understand awd helps out immensely but the X5M is more than 1000 lbs more than the M5 so the awd argument is somewhat negated. If the M3 and X3M used the same engine it would be bad for BMW's image that not only can a suv achieve the M3's 0-60 time or roughly the same but is also a more practical car because it has more space and with awd rain or shine the X3M will keep performing while the M3 with rwd might not.

Last edited by Beyu; 03-06-2012 at 11:05 PM.. Reason: Changed the 0-60 times b/c of conflicting results from different reviews. I'm going for the 4.5s claimed by BMW for both cars
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It's just not neccessary. From a business perspective the X3 is selling well without an M variant. There's no competitor stealing share with a high performance variant. And there probably aren't enough buyers in US to justify running it through type approval and crash testing.
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      03-07-2012, 05:30 AM   #9
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On one of those car shows the X6M held their track test record for some time over a whole host of serious sport cars and then remained in the running -- and it was above the M5 the whole time. At least as far as that is a test, something worked with the X-M concept! I'd love to see an X3M. I probably couldn't afford it, but I'd wish I could . . .
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I can't believe they build the X5 and X6 M, but the smaller, more nimble and agile SUV they decide not to give the M treatment. Shame.
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On one of those car shows the X6M held their track test record for some time over a whole host of serious sport cars and then remained in the running -- and it was above the M5 the whole time. At least as far as that is a test, something worked with the X-M concept! I'd love to see an X3M. I probably couldn't afford it, but I'd wish I could . . .
I agree, and I would have given some serious thought to buying one (depeding on the price). For the nay-sayers, you're far too late. The X5M and X6M broke that mold some time ago. An X3M, as it was described when it was in development, would have been a nimble beast.

I also agree that this was a business decision based on counting beans - it has nothing to do with BMW taking any sort of ideological stand on what should or should not become "emmed".
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      03-09-2012, 04:01 PM   #12
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I can't believe they build the X5 and X6 M, but the smaller, more nimble and agile SUV they decide not to give the M treatment. Shame.
I agree, that once you make an X5M, then a X3M makes perfect sense. That being said, I still think and X3M is a stupid idea. No modification to this car would make it an appropriate track vehicle. It seems it would be purely for status. I don't think anyone buys an X3 for status. If people want to impress you with how much money they spent on their car, the X3 is not what they will purchase.
BMW did their research and figured out not many people would buy an X3M and if they did it would likely cannibalize sales of the X5.
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I agree, that once you make an X5M, then a X3M makes perfect sense. That being said, I still think and X3M is a stupid idea. No modification to this car would make it an appropriate track vehicle. It seems it would be purely for status. I don't think anyone buys an X3 for status. If people want to impress you with how much money they spent on their car, the X3 is not what they will purchase.
BMW did their research and figured out not many people would buy an X3M and if they did it would likely cannibalize sales of the X5.
Spot on. There isn't an appropriate niche for an X3M to fill, at least not for now. An X3M would see a base price of about $60,000. Once you load it up, you end up with a $70,000 car. At that point, most would go for an X5 xDrive50i, which is as fast as a 335i and can be optioned out with an interior comparable to a Range Rover's.
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