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      12-13-2011, 11:03 AM   #1
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Different types of rear lights

Today I saw a new X3 on the highway with different rear lights than I have.

These are mine (well actually they're not mine, I stole them from the pics forum )



And the one I saw on the highway didn;t look as fancy and only had light in the outer side of the lights (I hope you understand what I mean).

Is this a Xenon/non Xenon thing?
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      12-13-2011, 11:20 AM   #2
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Perhaps you saw it under light braking.
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      12-13-2011, 11:23 AM   #3
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Today I saw a new X3 on the highway with different rear lights than I have.

These are mine (well actually they're not mine, I stole them from the pics forum )



And the one I saw on the highway didn;t look as fancy and only had light in the outer side of the lights (I hope you understand what I mean).

Is this a Xenon/non Xenon thing?
It's a Xenon thing. You have Xenon lights and they're followed by the LED backlight like the one on the pictures. Non Xenon lights have normal backlights and don't look so fancy
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      12-13-2011, 01:23 PM   #4
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I think the person you were driving behind might not have had their daytime running lights checked in iDrive. If this is the case, the LEDs in back and front are not on, but this person might have been braking, which is why you saw the outer part of the taillamp illuminated.
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      12-13-2011, 01:56 PM   #5
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It was dark and he had his lights switched on; he didn't have xenons so I guess that you have different tail lamps for xenon/non xenon
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      12-13-2011, 02:07 PM   #6
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It was dark and he had his lights switched on; he didn't have xenons so I guess that you have different tail lamps for xenon/non xenon
Correct
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      12-14-2011, 05:37 AM   #7
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It was dark and he had his lights switched on; he didn't have xenons so I guess that you have different tail lamps for xenon/non xenon
In this thread, post no. 91 you'll find a X3 without Xenon lights. http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showth...=522823&page=5

Here is the picture. Not a very good one, but you'll notice the difference.
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      12-14-2011, 06:40 AM   #8
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i dont see any difference
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      12-14-2011, 06:56 AM   #9
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i dont see any difference
I have cropped the images and set them next to each other. It's hard to see with the lights off, but you can tell a difference. This should be the difference he noticed. You can clearly see the LED poles only covering 2/3 of the taillight.
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      12-14-2011, 07:54 AM   #10
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well one taillight is lit and the other is turned off..im sure if there was a difference it would be noted when buying x3 with xenons or without xenons

same way its noted when purchasing 28 vs 35
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      12-14-2011, 08:15 AM   #11
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well one taillight is lit and the other is turned off..im sure if there was a difference it would be noted when buying x3 with xenons or without xenons

same way its noted when purchasing 28 vs 35
They do say that. If you know the German language, you can check page 14 on the German pricelist.

http://www.bmw.de/de/de/newvehicles/...?download=true

It clearly says:
Xenon lichtnung inkl. Scheinwerfer-Waschanlage, Tagfahrlicht über LED-Leuchtringe, automatischer Leuchtweitenregulierung, Heckleuchten mit LED-Leuchtbänken

A quick Google Translate gives you:
Xenon light including headlight washers, daytime driving lights with LED light rings, automatic headlight range adjustment, rear lights with LED light banks
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      12-14-2011, 08:31 AM   #12
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thats great info so xenons x3 have led taillights as suppose halogen x3 have regular tailight bulbs
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Interesting. Even the Build Your Own tool shows it. This is a 28i without xenons and with xenons.
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      12-14-2011, 03:09 PM   #14
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Hurray! After browsing through many pages of used X3's on a German website I found a non-xenon X3 with the lights on :-))



And look what I also found. I really didn't know that this existed. An X3 without iDrive and sat nav screen!

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Interesting...if you don't get Business or Professional Nav in Europe you get a storage compartment in place of the screen? The Business Nav screen is standard here in the US without Nav, but if Nav is ordered, it comes with the Professional screen.

You guys in Europe do have the rear foglight switch, though. Can't argue with that.
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Well, regarding the rear lights, I guess the issue's already covered. Non-xenon lights do not have the light strips iluminated in the rear, only the regular "bulb" on the sides.

Regarding the screen, it's standard with the i-drive, which is also standard equipment in Portugal. If you order business nav you're stuck with the same screen, if you order the professional nav, among other things you also get the bigger screen. As for the storage compartment, there is also an accessory that replaces that with an Iphone support so that you have it on the dash to perform as a GPS!



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Hurray! After browsing through many pages of used X3's on a German website I found a non-xenon X3 with the lights on :-))

And look what I also found. I really didn't know that this existed. An X3 without iDrive and sat nav screen!
Are these pictures of the same car? If so, then this must be the most boring X3 ever. There are litterally NO options. Ordinary seat, no NAV, small LCD in the instrument panel, no Xenons, but they have ordered the Extended Climate Control... go figure...

There is an option that gives you the 6,5" screen, but no NAV. That is 663 Radio BMW Professional. This is basically the iDrive with normal set of speakers and a CD/Radio. This car doesn't have that obviously. This car has however, a Radio/CD so this must be some kind of Radio BMW Business or something that I've never seen in an options list.

If you don't get one of the NAV options (Bus/Pro), you will not get the wide LCD screen in the instrument panel, just a small one, like this car has.

Then you have the biggest mystery of all, if these two pictures are of the same car... A straight six engine (30D) with a manual stick.... I didn't know this was even a possible combo...? But maybe in some screwed up marked it is possible... I don't know.

Or maybe this is one of the prototypes?
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Here is a picture of my X3. Pretty much Loaded 35i. Headlights were NOT on but Daytime running lights were.
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Here is a picture of my X3. Pretty much Loaded 35i. Headlights were NOT on but Daytime running lights were.
Oh hey by the way I think I saw you driving south on the inner drive between Briar and Wellington. I was in a black 328i loaner. Your car looks great. Makes me miss my own a lot.
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thats great info so xenons x3 have led taillights as suppose halogen x3 have regular tailight bulbs
Jeez, How does BMW expect one to even notice this, reminds me of the folding mirror issue which is a another option you can easily miss. At least I am now educated.

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Are these pictures of the same car? If so, then this must be the most boring X3 ever. There are litterally NO options. Ordinary seat, no NAV, small LCD in the instrument panel, no Xenons, but they have ordered the Extended Climate Control... go figure...
Rest of the world outside UK and US majority of the stuff is an option eg leather etc etc
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Rest of the world outside UK and US majority of the stuff is an option eg leather etc etc
That is correct, but I have never seen 30D with manual stick. I have been on BMW sites in multiple countries, and all of the six cylinders have 8 speed automatic.... Only the 4 cylinders comes with manual stick.

In most Western European countries you will see a level of standard wich is higher than the one on the interiour photo... I'm sure they have that Down Under as well
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Oh hey by the way I think I saw you driving south on the inner drive between Briar and Wellington. I was in a black 328i loaner. Your car looks great. Makes me miss my own a lot.
Probably... I live right around that area. If you ever see a blue Nissan 350Z thats probably me too.
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