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      02-14-2011, 07:02 PM   #23
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I dont think those are the standard M package wheels. Remember this is a pre-production m package.
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      02-14-2011, 07:30 PM   #24
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Do I see a DCT in there?
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      02-14-2011, 07:34 PM   #25
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      02-14-2011, 10:17 PM   #26
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Do I see a DCT in there?
nope. just paddle shift. 8 speed auto.
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I hate hose black "buttons" under the wheelarches! They are so visible from any angle. X1,X3,X5 and X6 with sport packets. All of them have the same problem when not painted in black. For example Audi could never let something like this reach production. I hate Audis though.
BMW... please.
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      02-15-2011, 03:01 AM   #28
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Judging by the looks of the tires...they could be a full winter set. Maybe these models had sport tires equiped/changed and BMW didnt want to take the chance driving the X3ers in the weather.
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I hate those chrome eyebrows. Why aren't they translucent white plastic like every other model?

This design is instantly boring.
+1 I really do not like those chrome eyebrows, am sure BMW is going to change it in the future.
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      02-15-2011, 05:44 AM   #30
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X3 28i's come stock with halogen lamps and Xenon is optional, 35i's all come with the Xenon plus LED corona rings. No 2011 X3's have full LEDs.

The full LED headlight system for the Audi R8 is estimated to cost around $5K which would be a "hard-to-sell" option on a X3.
OK, makes sense. So which BMW models have LED corona rings, and which use another source for the corona rings? Or, do all Xenons have LED corona rings?
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      02-15-2011, 08:31 AM   #31
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19" wheels for the M Pack for a better look pls
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      02-15-2011, 02:07 PM   #32
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Those wheels are weak. Any more pictures of the SB?
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      02-15-2011, 03:29 PM   #33
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OK, makes sense. So which BMW models have LED corona rings, and which use another source for the corona rings? Or, do all Xenons have LED corona rings?
LED rings come standard with the Xenon, and the Halogen lights appear not to even have rings??? WT F??
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      02-23-2011, 06:43 PM   #35
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Better wheels on the way

In response to the comments about the ugly wheels, I'm a couple of days away from ordering a X3 35i M Sport package and it comes with 19 inch M wheels (style 369M). They're not my favourite wheels, but nicer than the ones above.

I'm actually in a bind... I'm trying to decide whether to get a fully loaded (every option) X3 35i but the dealer is anxious to move some X5's and is willing to give me a great deal on a 2011 X5 M Sport Package. I'm struggling to decide which to go with.

X3 35i (Tecnology, Premium, Executive, Dynamic Comfort, M Sport Packages and Heads Up display)

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X5 35i (Technology, Premium, M Sport, Premium Sound Packages)

Canadian packages.

Help!!!
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What's the price difference?
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      02-23-2011, 08:54 PM   #37
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Virtually nil price difference. The X3 is $76K and the X5 is $86K but I'm pretty sure the dealer will reduce the X5 by 7 or 8 thousand. So not much difference.
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      02-23-2011, 09:19 PM   #38
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What things are important to you? Size? Transmission? Engine (are they both the same)? Styling? Gadgets? Which looks better to you? Color differences? Any particular transport requirements?

Don't the packages on the X3 add up to more features than the X5 set?

Absent any specific needs/desires you have, it seems unlikely that you're gonna go home and really dislike your choice -- well, unless you over think it and do "the grass is greener" thing and always figure you woulda liked the one you didn't choose more.
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      02-23-2011, 09:45 PM   #39
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What things are important to you? Size? Transmission? Engine (are they both the same)? Styling? Gadgets? Which looks better to you? Color differences? Any particular transport requirements?

Don't the packages on the X3 add up to more features than the X5 set?

Absent any specific needs/desires you have, it seems unlikely that you're gonna go home and really dislike your choice -- well, unless you over think it and do "the grass is greener" thing and always figure you woulda liked the one you didn't choose more.
Thanks again Nahoa. I'm caught in two threads here. I'm driving a civic hatch right now so either X3 or X5 would be a huge increase in size. I figure the X3 is fine for me size wise. Both have the 8 speed auto transmission. Both same engine. I have not seen the new X3 in person, only online. I like the look of the X5 slightly more.

Yes, the packages on the X3 add up to more features than the X5. For sure. I'm leaning towards Carbon Black for either model.

I agree at the end of the day I'm going to be very pleased. But whichever one I choose I expect to have for a long time so want to get this right. Until this morning the X5 wasn't even on my mind. But the dealer called and they really want to move this X5 so I'm trying to figure it out.

The X5 doesn't have Dynamic Damper Control but the X3 does. Given the fact both are M Sport paks I would imagine it would be nice to have the damper control for normal driving. I can picture the X5 being very stiff with the Sport tuned suspension. Based on other threads on here you can opt to delete Sport suspension on the X3 which I would do given the fact it would have the damper control.

I also like the thought of the same engine pushing the smaller X3.
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      02-23-2011, 10:17 PM   #40
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one thing to remember ... the current model X5, which is the second generation E70, was introduced in 2006. Although it got a facelift in 2010 its still basically a design that was started in 2006. I think I read there will be a new X5 in 2012 or 2013. The X3 on the other hand is a brand new design and has a whole new styling to it, which in my opinion looks very sleek and modern - especially the downward sloping lines on the sides. I've had mine for two weeks and have had many people come up to me and comment about the look - its something new and different and something they haven't seen before.

I'm sure the X5s are great, don't get me wrong, but I like the fresh new look and feel of the X3. if, as you say, you plan on keeping your car for a long time, and if they re-style the X5 in 2012/2013, what you would end up with is the "old" model X5 for many years when others will be driving the "new" version X5s. kind of like the iPads, I really want one, but am going to tough it out for a few more months to get the new version

(now if you asked this question on the X5 forum you would probably get a totally different answer)

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      02-23-2011, 10:29 PM   #42
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one thing to remember ... the current model X5, which is the second generation E70, was introduced in 2006. Although it got a facelift in 2010 its still basically a design that was started in 2006. I think I read there will be a new X5 in 2012 or 2013. The X3 on the other hand is a brand new design and has a whole new styling to it, which in my opinion looks very sleek and modern - especially the downward sloping lines on the sides. I've had mine for two weeks and have had many people come up to me and comment about the look - its something new and different and something they haven't seen before.

I'm sure the X5s are great, don't get me wrong, but I like the fresh new look and feel of the X3. if, as you say, you plan on keeping your car for a long time, and if they re-style the X5 in 2012/2013, what you would end up with is the "old" model X5 for many years when others will be driving the "new" version X5s. kind of like the iPads, I really want one, but am going to tough it out for a few more months to get the new version

(now if you asked this question on the X5 forum you would probably get a totally different answer)

Good point. Have spent most of the night thinking about this, and getting a few helpful comments from yourselves, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna stick with the original plan and go with the X3. I really don't need the extra space of the X5, and like you said there's something novel about getting a fresh model of something vs. driving the 'old' X5 in a couple of years. Now I just need to figure out which colour I want. Leaning towards the carbon black. We'll see. Thanks for your thoughts.
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Just confirmed by a friend who owns a Q5. The rear seats of Q5 is not adjustable and this feature is only available for Q7 at this moment.

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Went to the auto show yesterday. Impossible to add any pics as both X3's were completely mobbed with people (that's what I get for going on a Saturday). Did note that nearly all comments were very positive, with one exception from an Audi owner that noted the X3 rear seats don't adjust/recline like others in the class. Have to say I agree in this aspect - ability to recline rear seats can trick one into thinking there's extra legroom. Definitely more comfortable. That said, there's plenty of legroom in the rear seats so inability to adjust is not the end of the world.

First time I got to see the Black Sapphire in person. What a great color! Plenty of metallic but not over the top. Heavy metallic seems to be an overall theme at the show, across all makes/models. Very sophisticated colors these days! Can't be easy to match/blend during repairs, but hey, they look great!
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someone may have already pointed out (I haven't read through the whole thread) but that silver M Sport is a 28i, not a 35i. The 18" wheels and halogen headlamps are 28i features.
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