[chillychan]

Has anyone gotten a bubble on their RFTs yet? If so, how long did it take and what caused it?

[02420X3]

No, and why do you ask?

[tuco44]

Originally Posted by chillychan

Has anyone gotten a bubble on their RFTs yet? If so, how long did it take and what caused it?

NO, is there a reason for this question?

[chillychan]

i was just wondering if the RFTs have improved. I replaced 3 RFTs within the first year of running my e92 around NYC.

Why do you ask if there is a reason for this question?

[Dukat]

3 replacements in 1 year? That's horrible.

I ran original tires on my Acura TL until 90,000 miles. Yes they needed to be changed badly, but great value.

I changed the tires on my IS250 at 55,000 miles and they still looked fine.

Tirerack doesn't list the new tires that come with the 2012 35i SAP (309's All Weather). They do list the Summer Performance tires that came with the 2011 309's and they are just under $1,700 for a set of 4. Crazy.

If they don't last at least 3 years of normal wear I will be very dissapointed.

[Lotus7]

Seen lot's of "Bubbles"

Dotcom Bubble

Housing Bubble

[02420X3]

Originally Posted by chillychan

i was just wondering if the RFTs have improved. I replaced 3 RFTs within the first year of running my e92 around NYC.

Why do you ask if there is a reason for this question?

Why do we ask if there is a reason for this question?

If you have knowledge of bubbles on run-flat tires on F25s then we all have a reason for concern. If you do not, then it's likely that your question may be perceived as a troll question, one meant to inspire unnecessary fear, worries, and 100 posts. But that's just my opinion, and I'm relatively new here.

[Beyu]

Originally Posted by 02420X3

Why do we ask if there is a reason for this question?

If you have knowledge of bubbles on run-flat tires on F25s then we all have a reason for concern. If you do not, then it's likely that your question may be perceived as a troll question, one meant to inspire unnecessary fear, worries, and 100 posts. But that's just my opinion, and I'm relatively new here.

Originally Posted by chillychan

i was just wondering if the RFTs have improved. I replaced 3 RFTs within the first year of running my e92 around NYC.

I fail to see how this would be considered a troll question. While not a F25 getting bubbles and having to replace 3 RFTs on a E92 seems like more than enough reason to be concerned about getting bubbles again on another bimmer.

[MattUK]

I've only ever had RFTs when I has the 1 series, and I swapped those for regular once they wore down.

I took out BMW tyre insurance on these

[sfax]

Originally Posted by 02420X3

Why do we ask if there is a reason for this question?

If you have knowledge of bubbles on run-flat tires on F25s then we all have a reason for concern. If you do not, then it's likely that your question may be perceived as a troll question, one meant to inspire unnecessary fear, worries, and 100 posts. But that's just my opinion, and I'm relatively new here.

Trolls usually can't spell. Or use punctuation. E.g:

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=508526

[Beyu]

Originally Posted by sfax

Trolls usually can't spell. Or use punctuation. E.g:

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=508526

Or this little gem. Look at the thread title and the OP's info.

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=564819

[Penso di no]

Originally Posted by Beyu

I fail to see how this would be considered a troll question. While not a F25 getting bubbles and having to replace 3 RFTs on a E92 seems like more than enough reason to be concerned about getting bubbles again on another bimmer.

Right, but we didn't know that's why you posed the question until someone asked why and you answered.

[sfax]

Originally Posted by Beyu

Or this little gem. Look at the thread title and the OP's info.

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=564819

I remember wong. As trolls go, he was pretty funny in places, e.g. "I see you guys are new to the Internet."

[chillychan]

Nice. This thread has been viewed 132 times so far, and no one has reported a bubble yet. I am happy that most of your RFTs are still in order, but I am sad that I dropped $1300 for wheel/tire insurance LOL!

Originally Posted by Beyu

I fail to see how this would be considered a troll question. While not a F25 getting bubbles and having to replace 3 RFTs on a E92 seems like more than enough reason to be concerned about getting bubbles again on another bimmer.

Das what I am sayin yo!!

Originally Posted by Dukat

3 replacements in 1 year? That's horrible.

I ran original tires on my Acura TL until 90,000 miles. Yes they needed to be changed badly, but great value.

I changed the tires on my IS250 at 55,000 miles and they still looked fine.

Tirerack doesn't list the new tires that come with the 2012 35i SAP (309's All Weather). They do list the Summer Performance tires that came with the 2011 309's and they are just under $1,700 for a set of 4. Crazy.

If they don't last at least 3 years of normal wear I will be very dissapointed.

Yeah it was like 360 a piece to replace those crappy bridgestones. I then put on different wheels and non-RFTs.

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=586902

When I returned the lease, I had to replace another 2. Anyways, I guess I pay for piece of mind. I can drive around not worrying about pot holes

[Dukat]

Originally Posted by MattUK

I've only ever had RFTs when I has the 1 series, and I swapped those for regular once they wore down.

I took out BMW tyre insurance on these

After switching to non-run flats did you carry a spare in the back?

I heard the BMW tire insurance only applies if you are using the OEM run-flats. True?

[02420X3]

Originally Posted by Dukat

I heard the BMW tire insurance only applies if you are using the OEM run-flats. True?

False. The insurance, as explained to me, covers whatever tires and wheels are on the car for the life of the policy. YMMV. Read the fine print.

[Beyu]

Originally Posted by chillychan

Nice. This thread has been viewed 132 times so far, and no one has reported a bubble yet. I am happy that most of your RFTs are still in order, but I am sad that I dropped $1300 for wheel/tire insurance LOL!

Well not exactly, most people don't know this but the tires themselves come with a warranty. I'm not sure if the initial set of tires that came with the car also comes with a warranty so the insurance isn't a total waste (plus it covers the wheels which usually cost more than the tires) but I know for a fact that if you buy a new tire it does come with some type of factory warranty.

Prior to the X3 I had 2 leased cars within 4 years and popped 5 tires between both of them, 3 of them were fully covered with the warranty that came with the tires, not from the dealership so I didn't have to pay anything out of pocket. So what I'd recommend is if you experience any bubbles in the future see if the factory warranty covers the tire first and if not then claim from the insurance that you bought from the dealership because I believe there's a limit on how many times you can collect per year or something like that.

[Dukat]

Here's the tire warranty details.

Is 2/32" (1/16") of tire tread very low?


BMWTire &Wheel Protection.
The BMWTire &Wheel Protection program provides coverage in the event of damage to your tires or wheels as a result of metal, nails, glass, debris, potholes, blowouts, etc. (excluding cosmetic damage). You can choose a plan that covers your vehicle for up to 5 years. YourTire &Wheel Protection program includes these important features.
– Replacement of flat tire due to road hazard.
– Replacement of damaged wheel due to road hazard.
– Coverage of all costs associated with the replacement of tires and/or wheels plus labor charges including mounting, balancing, valve stems, tire disposal and taxes.
– No deductible.
– All vehicle tires are covered as long as they have more than 2⁄32" of tread at the time of damage.
– Tires and wheels will be replaced using original equipment manufacturer (OEM) parts.
– Available on new and certified pre-owned BMWvehicles.

Customer benefits.
– Ultimate peace ofmind. You no longer have to worry about unnecessary financial hardship in the event of damage due to a road hazard.We have you covered.
– Damaged tire(s) will be replaced, not plugged or patched.
– There are no maximum number of occurrences, no claim limits and no claim aggregate.
– Benefits are not restricted by vehicle mileage.
– Program benefits continue even if you replace your tires.
– Up to $100 of towing expenses are covered.
– Transferable— adds resale value.

If your tire or wheel is damaged.
– Services may be completed at any BMW center in the United States or Canada.
– Replaced parts will be covered for the remainder of the contract term.
– There are no additional costs to you for labor, mounting, balancing, valve stems or taxes.

[clivem2]

What are these bubbles? The only thing resembling a bubble I've had is with non-RFTs when a steel belt in the tyre snaps after going down a pothole - this results in a bulge in the sidewall. My RTFs have never suffered from this - it's the only good thing I have to say for them. I got really fed up with replacing my non-RFTs, which admittedly were very low profile.

[richardew]

The only thing resembling a bubble I've had is with non-RFTs when a steel belt in the tyre snaps after going down a pothole - this results in a bulge in the sidewall.

This happened to me quite often in my 2008 E92. I replaced 3-4 tires in 3 years. I think it was the combination of the tire, wheel and suspension in the E92. That setup just would not take a pothole. I also bought the BMW tire protection plan for ~$1000. I think that this is an excellent question/topic for discussion on this forum. Thanks for bringing it up chillychan.

[chillychan]

Originally Posted by Dukat

Is 2/32" (1/16") of tire tread very low?

1/16 of an inch is about 1.5875mm. That sounds pretty low to me.

[chillychan]

Originally Posted by richardew

This happened to me quite often in my 2008 E92. I replaced 3-4 tires in 3 years. I think it was the combination of the tire, wheel and suspension in the E92. That setup just would not take a pothole. I also bought the BMW tire protection plan for ~$1000. I think that this is an excellent question/topic for discussion on this forum. Thanks for bringing it up chillychan.

Yeah them RFTs were ridiculous. I am curious to see how the F25 on 19's hold up.