[Peter_R]

Originally Posted by ianfp

Your opinion is irrelevant in connection with my factual experience.

[clivem2]

Originally Posted by ianfp

This is a fair statement and I would agree with you Clive. If I was doing a lot of motorway driving, I would prefer the power of the 30 or 35D.

If it makes you feel better....I found with my 30D whilst it was really good I wouldn't say power delivery was seemless or totally predictable. The 35D fixes all of my slight gripes with the 30D.

[ianfp]

Originally Posted by clivem2

If it makes you feel better....I found with my 30D whilst it was really good I wouldn't say power delivery was seemless or totally predictable. The 35D fixes all of my slight gripes with the 30D.

At present, the 20D suits my mostly short commutes, but having driven the 35D, I couldn't fault it. I'm just slightly envious!

[clivem2]

Originally Posted by ianfp

At present, the 20D suits my mostly short commutes, but having driven the 35D, I couldn't fault it. I'm just slightly envious!

It's an indulgence for sure though the way my lease worked out it is actually a very good deal. The 20D is more than most people need and is fun to drive. I know what you mean about its performance as I found when I drove a 20D I was driving faster than most people around me due to its torque characteristics.

[TK - 421]

Originally Posted by Peter_R

I am sorry you do not like my opinion, but it can be debated by me and I will do so. This is the very reason we have a forum such as this to exchange opinions and views. I am only giving my reason for me not purchasing the 2.0d when I went for a comprehensive test drive in one to see what the acceleration was like. I had gone with an open mind to the dealer when I was driving an F31 320d Sport. If it had felt anything like that engine in that car, then I would have gone down that route, but because it did not (not unexpectedly because of the extra weight) , the dealer brought the 3.0d across from their other garage and within a matter of a few minutes my wife and I grinned at each other and said.....Sold.

OK...then ...back on topic.

Anygreg

Once you get the car, check your Navigation Map version. I might have something to your advantage that I can send you through the post.

You will need to PM me though.

Fantastic! Now I'm intrigued. ...thanks for all your help guys

[ianfp]

Originally Posted by clivem2

It's an indulgence for sure though the way my lease worked out it is actually a very good deal. The 20D is more than most people need and is fun to drive. I know what you mean about its performance as I found when I drove a 20D I was driving faster than most people around me due to its torque characteristics.

Not so much of an indulgence when you compare the increased power over the 30D but without sacrificing economy or CO2!

I have to say that the 6 cylinder diesels are far more refined than the 4 cylinder versions and this is especially noticeable coming from straight 6 petrol engines.

[TK - 421]

The 184hp twin scroll 2.0d is something of a masterpiece to be fair, BMW is simply the best Diesel engine manufacturer for road going vehicles in my opinion. Plus, the 2.0d is now easily mapable through OBD to release more power and reduce the low down lag...

Or alternatively use one of the multi channel programmers (plug in modules) they go real well after the increase!

[Peter_R]

Anygreg

Sent another PM.

[gIzzE]

Originally Posted by Anygreg

The 184hp twin scroll 2.0d is something of a masterpiece to be fair, BMW is simply the best Diesel engine manufacturer for road going vehicles in my opinion. Plus, the 2.0d is now easily mapable through OBD to release more power and reduce the low down lag...

Or alternatively use one of the multi channel programmers (plug in modules) they go real well after the increase!

The 2 litre diesel can really benefit from a good map or a decent tuning box, one that controls boost too.
The loss of 50 kilos over the front also makes a big difference to how they feel.

Once mapped the 20d is a completely different car.

The 6cyl is much sweeter, but there becomes much less of a gap speed wise, but the 20d sounds gruff, no getting away from that. Really surprised they never released the 25d.

For me the X3 is a car to do 30k boring miles a year in, and the 20d does that very well, sometimes 700 miles from a tank.

[ianfp]

Originally Posted by Anygreg

The 184hp twin scroll 2.0d is something of a masterpiece to be fair, BMW is simply the best Diesel engine manufacturer for road going vehicles in my opinion. Plus, the 2.0d is now easily mapable through OBD to release more power and reduce the low down lag...

Or alternatively use one of the multi channel programmers (plug in modules) they go real well after the increase!

It is a good strong engine and I hadn't thought about mapping it. My warranty is up in a few weeks, so I might consider it!
Ian

[gIzzE]

I would seriously consider the CRD-T+ box, they come up used at good prices and you can use one from a X18d, X25d, X30d etc. etc.

[ianfp]

Originally Posted by gIzzE

I would seriously consider the CRD-T+ box, they come up used at good prices and you can use one from a X18d, X25d, X30d etc. etc.

Thanks gizzE, I might look into that when the warranty is up!

[TK - 421]

Originally Posted by ianfp

It is a good strong engine and I hadn't thought about mapping it. My warranty is up in a few weeks, so I might consider it!
Ian

PM me when the time comes buddy

will point you in the right direction

[Ranger 6]

Intrigued now too.

Do you have a good contact for mapping?

350bhp would be nice.....

[Peter_R]

Originally Posted by Ranger 6

Intrigued now too.

Do you have a good contact for mapping?

350bhp would be nice.....

Richard are you serious about this? I have contact details for one of the largest mappers in the world and the UK.

Here are typical figures for yours:

Fuel : DIESEL
Original BHP : 310
Power increase - Performance remap : 49 BHP
Torque Increase- Performance remap : 60 Nm

I had a 2007 pre lci e91 325d (6 cyl) from new for 5 1/2 years that was remapped by 20%.

I will not post the name on the forum as it can be construed as advertising.

Same information available to anyone vaguely interested including Anygreg. Just PM me.

[Ranger 6]

Thanks, it's a pipe dream at the moment as the car's still under warranty.

I have used a very good tuner in the past. I believe gizzie has experience of the same chap.

I was just enquiring to broaden my knowledge of who can do these through the obd port.

[Peter_R]

Originally Posted by Ranger 6

Thanks, it's a pipe dream at the moment as the car's still under warranty.

I have used a very good tuner in the past. I believe gizzie has experience of the same chap.

I was just enquiring to broaden my knowledge of who can do these through the obd port.

If it is in the Birmingham area, perhaps so.

[Ranger 6]

Yes, Simon did an excellent job for me in the past

[Peter_R]

Originally Posted by Ranger 6

Yes, Simon did an excellent job for me in the past

Simon is good but the other one I have had recent direct dealings with is worldwide including USA and trains people. The last time I was there, I used to drive up because it is only an hour away he had 2 Porsches and a Jaguar waiting.

Please do not assume we are talking about the same people. It was one of my specialities some time ago and I flitted between 2 companies, one is just down the road from me. If you look carefully, I am in F1 territory where the real specialists are.

[Ranger 6]

Interesting..... PM the other would you please?

I have a contact local to me who has a rolling road and he's had examples from most tuners through his doors. Some of the more well known ones really don't deliver. As mentioned I'm always on the look out

[Peter_R]

Originally Posted by Ranger 6

Interesting..... PM the other would you please?

I have a contact local to me who has a rolling road and he's had examples from most tuners through his doors. Some of the more well known ones really don't deliver. As mentioned I'm always on the look out

Check your mail.

[Ranger 6]

Thanks