Buy now or wait for 2013 models

cadman50 · 12-11-2011, 08:38 PM

Well I have waited this long so far and understand that the 2012 model year will end in March. Does it make sense to wait until then to order or order before the end of the year? I also understand there is a price increase coming in January. There could also be another increase for the 2013 models. I'm looking at the 35i models. any thoughts on this? If I order now and pick up in late January then I only get 2-3 months of a 2012 model. How will this affect resale?

paul386 · 12-11-2011, 09:08 PM

Makes no sense. Can anyone even get 2012 models yet? 2014 will probably be a face lift so that would be the only year that would make sense to wait for.

jk · 12-11-2011, 09:10 PM

i read somewhere that the 28i model will have a different engine in the '13 model year, no change for the 25i.

JSY · 12-11-2011, 09:19 PM

Won't the 2013 models come out in Oct?

Lotus7 · 12-11-2011, 09:38 PM

Expect a complete engine line-up revision and new chassis in 2016. You should definitely wait until 2017 so you don't have any "first-year teething problems". But, of course the 2018's may even be better. Decisions, decisions!!

I'll get back to you as soon as my flux capacitor reaches full-charge.

cadman50 · 12-11-2011, 09:59 PM

oh man a bunch of comedians

02420X3 · 12-11-2011, 10:26 PM

I'm curious why so many people think that 2012 production will halt in March, rather than doing a small reset and continuing through the summer.

GenX3 · 12-12-2011, 12:12 AM

Life is short, go for the 2012. There will always be upgrades, improvements, price increases, better color options, larger wheels, new options, etc. Go for it!

nonagon · 12-12-2011, 08:49 AM

The 2012s are sweet and they just came out recently. Go for it. That is, unless you are in absolutely no hurry and really have your heart set on a 28i, in which case it might make sense to wait for the N20 engine offering -- it appears to be a real winner according to new 3 series video reviews.

lbjgh · 12-12-2011, 11:22 AM

I've seen a few 2012 328i reviews with the new turbo 4... it might be a better choice waiting for that engine than either of the current offerings. Don't know if/when the turbo 4 is going to be available in the x3 though.

mkoesel · 01-20-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lbjgh

Don't know if/when the turbo 4 is going to be available in the x3 though.

N20 28i confirmed for MY2013 (which starts in April):

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637583

fiddy yen · 01-20-2012, 01:44 PM

Its not confirmed that the n20 will be in the 2013 28i models for NA, thus, I don't think there will be much difference whether you choose 2012 or 2013. Furthermore, you probably wont benefit much between the two as both are mated to a 8spd gear box which contributes largely to the fuel economy of the X3s.

lbjgh · 01-20-2012, 01:53 PM

That's great news and perfect timing for me.

I test drove the X1 with the N20 engine and was very impressed. The X3 weighs 385 lbs more than the X1 so I don't know how much impact that'll have on performance.

mkoesel · 01-20-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fiddy yen

Its not confirmed that the n20 will be in the 2013 28i models for NA...

Strictly speaking that's correct, however the chances of them maintaining production of the N20 and N52 28i at the same are diminishingly miniscule in my opinion. Notice that with the X1 28i, Z4 28i, 328i sedan, and 528i the N20 replaced the N52 completely in all markets.

fiddy yen · 01-20-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Strictly speaking that's correct, however the chances of them maintaining production of the N20 and N52 28i at the same are diminishingly miniscule in my opinion. Notice that with the X1 28i, Z4 28i, 328i sedan, and 528i the N20 replaced the N52 completely in all markets.

Correct. The N20 coming first in the X1, then the 528i in the second model year for the F10 and now the 328i F30. Given that BMW has a history of changing engine/model designations on the second year ie, 330 on the E90's and the 528's on the F10... I am doubting that BMW will make any drastic changes in the following model year especially if the 2014 models are going to be LCI models.

There's really no way of telling until released by BMW Group and/or updated internally on BMW's system. I guess we'll wait and see.

P.S the N20 is very impressive. Loved driving the X1 for the few months that I had it.

Dr Stig 2 · 01-20-2012, 06:20 PM

Wait.
2013 is not that far off.
Then wait again, as 2014 will be getting close by then.
Looking at the big picture, they will start releasing teasers of the replacement model in about late 2015, which will only be a small wait until they are released for sale in 2017.
So just keep waiting. Save your money.
Buy a used ford in the meantime.

If only I could follow my own advice.

lbjgh · 01-20-2012, 08:28 PM

...east for you to say... you get the choice of the N20 or a diesel down under.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Stig 2

Wait.
2013 is not that far off.
Then wait again, as 2014 will be getting close by then.
Looking at the big picture, they will start releasing teasers of the replacement model in about late 2015, which will only be a small wait until they are released for sale in 2017.
So just keep waiting. Save your money.
Buy a used ford in the meantime.

If only I could follow my own advice.

ND40oz · 01-21-2012, 02:33 AM

They're already filling March production slots now, can't imagine it would be too hard to wait a month for an April production slot and get a 2013.

fiddy yen · 01-21-2012, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ND40oz

They're already filling March production slots now, can't imagine it would be too hard to wait a month for an April production slot and get a 2013.

2013 Production doesn't come until fall. 2012's started production in October 2011.

OP... you waiting?

ND40oz · 01-21-2012, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiddy yen

2013 Production doesn't come until fall. 2012's started production in October 2011.

OP... you waiting?

We know there is a change of production in April for the German market, whether or not it's a model year change, I guess we'll see.

The 2010 model year for the E82 was only a few months. The 2011 model started production in Feb of 2010 when they switched from the N54 to the N55 and added the DCT option. We could see the same thing happen here if they switch the N52 out for the N20 in the 28i for the NA market.

April1 · 01-21-2012, 12:34 PM

Things keep changing, priorities change, models change, money position change, likings change. If I am going to lease a new car, I go for the best available choice for my needs and pocket and don't guess what will happen to the models tomorrow. I go fur fun right now and know that if I lease now, I will have a chance to go for another car in 36 months so why to delay and postpone my decisions.

If I want to own a car for 10 plus years, then I need to think 10 times before deciding as I'm locking my money and choices for long and even in this case I don't want to wait for over six months as that will be never ending otherwise.

I always view two options: my next car and my future car. This makes life easier.

renderfarmer · 01-21-2012, 12:52 PM

If you want a 35i then now is the time.

If you want a 28i then wait until they update the engine.

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cadman50 Lieutenant 106 Rep 590 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 35i, 2021 X3 M40i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Eastern Mass iTrader: (0)	Buy now or wait for 2013 models Well I have waited this long so far and understand that the 2012 model year will end in March. Does it make sense to wait until then to order or order before the end of the year? I also understand there is a price increase coming in January. There could also be another increase for the 2013 models. I'm looking at the 35i models. any thoughts on this? If I order now and pick up in late January then I only get 2-3 months of a 2012 model. How will this affect resale?
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paul386 Second Lieutenant 18 Rep 274 Posts Drives: 2011 X3 35i Jet Black Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Makes no sense. Can anyone even get 2012 models yet? 2014 will probably be a face lift so that would be the only year that would make sense to wait for.
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jk Private First Class 2 Rep 114 Posts Drives: '12 x3 35i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	i read somewhere that the 28i model will have a different engine in the '13 model year, no change for the 25i.
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Lotus7 Major 66 Rep 1,041 Posts Drives: xxxx Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: xxxx iTrader: (0)	Expect a complete engine line-up revision and new chassis in 2016. You should definitely wait until 2017 so you don't have any "first-year teething problems". But, of course the 2018's may even be better. Decisions, decisions!! I'll get back to you as soon as my flux capacitor reaches full-charge.
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cadman50 Lieutenant 106 Rep 590 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 35i, 2021 X3 M40i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Eastern Mass iTrader: (0)	oh man a bunch of comedians
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02420X3 Captain 63 Rep 983 Posts Drives: 2011 X3 35i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	I'm curious why so many people think that 2012 production will halt in March, rather than doing a small reset and continuing through the summer.
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nonagon Captain 113 Rep 777 Posts Drives: Porsche Cayenne GTS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Arlington VA iTrader: (0)	The 2012s are sweet and they just came out recently. Go for it. That is, unless you are in absolutely no hurry and really have your heart set on a 28i, in which case it might make sense to wait for the N20 engine offering -- it appears to be a real winner according to new 3 series video reviews.
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lbjgh Lieutenant Colonel 104 Rep 1,511 Posts Drives: 2013 AW X3 M-Sport Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North of Toronto iTrader: (0)	I've seen a few 2012 328i reviews with the new turbo 4... it might be a better choice waiting for that engine than either of the current offerings. Don't know if/when the turbo 4 is going to be available in the x3 though.
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fiddy yen First Lieutenant 25 Rep 329 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 35i Msport Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Skeetsckatchewan iTrader: (0)	Its not confirmed that the n20 will be in the 2013 28i models for NA, thus, I don't think there will be much difference whether you choose 2012 or 2013. Furthermore, you probably wont benefit much between the two as both are mated to a 8spd gear box which contributes largely to the fuel economy of the X3s. __________________ 2008 335i 6MT - Dinan tuned stge 2 1986 325es - SOLD 2012 BMW X3 35i AW on RB Msport - JB3 @ 4.0PSi over stock, 20x9F and 20x10.5R Stance SC-5ive, H&R lowering springs. - SOLD 2006 BMW 330i - //M rep kit with custom exhaust, H&R springs, 19" VMR - SOLD
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lbjgh Lieutenant Colonel 104 Rep 1,511 Posts Drives: 2013 AW X3 M-Sport Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North of Toronto iTrader: (0)	That's great news and perfect timing for me. I test drove the X1 with the N20 engine and was very impressed. The X3 weighs 385 lbs more than the X1 so I don't know how much impact that'll have on performance.
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April1 Love All 170 Rep 740 Posts Drives: X3 28i 2011 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (2)	Things keep changing, priorities change, models change, money position change, likings change. If I am going to lease a new car, I go for the best available choice for my needs and pocket and don't guess what will happen to the models tomorrow. I go fur fun right now and know that if I lease now, I will have a chance to go for another car in 36 months so why to delay and postpone my decisions. If I want to own a car for 10 plus years, then I need to think 10 times before deciding as I'm locking my money and choices for long and even in this case I don't want to wait for over six months as that will be never ending otherwise. I always view two options: my next car and my future car. This makes life easier.
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renderfarmer Enlisted Member 3 Rep 42 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 xDrive35i M Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	If you want a 35i then now is the time. If you want a 28i then wait until they update the engine.
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