[PIEZON]

These new wheels are awesome looking! 21" offset 325 rears and 285 fronts

[usual_suspect]

I think the dimensions are for the X5 version of 599m wheel.

This is copied from the X3 PDF catalogue:
21" BMW M Performance light alloy wheels Double-spoke style 599M, forged, in Bicolor matt Black, burnished on the visible sides, with four-colour M Logo and mixed tyres. Front: 8,5 J x 21 with 245/35 R 21 tyres. Rear: 10 J x 21 with 275/35 R 21 tyres.

The same goes for the 310m wheel. There is one version for X3 and one version for X5.

Also according to BMW 245 front and 275 back is recommended maximum for x3.

[usual_suspect]

Here's some pictures on X4 with the 599 wheels:

http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/up...rmance-071.jpg
http://www.bimmertoday.de/wp-content...V-Coupe-01.jpg

And here's some on the X5 with the same model:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qZnaHOkGqNg/maxresdefault.jpg
http://allroader.ru/wp-content/uploa...ormance-02.jpg

[PIEZON]

Originally Posted by usual_suspect

I think the dimensions are for the X5 version of 599m wheel.

This is copied from the X3 PDF catalogue:
21" BMW M Performance light alloy wheels Double-spoke style 599M, forged, in Bicolor matt Black, burnished on the visible sides, with four-colour M Logo and mixed tyres. Front: 8,5 J x 21 with 245/35 R 21 tyres. Rear: 10 J x 21 with 275/35 R 21 tyres.

The same goes for the 310m wheel. There is one version for X3 and one version for X5.

Also according to BMW 245 front and 275 back is recommended maximum for x3.

Thank you for the insight!!!! Great looking weeks. I was hoping for a larger profiles but makes sense!

[PIEZON]

Originally Posted by usual_suspect

Here's some pictures on X4 with the 599 wheels:

http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/up...rmance-071.jpg
http://www.bimmertoday.de/wp-content...V-Coupe-01.jpg

And here's some on the X5 with the same model:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qZnaHOkGqNg/maxresdefault.jpg
http://allroader.ru/wp-content/uploa...ormance-02.jpg

Thanks for sharing! Love the wheels. Great presence!

[usual_suspect]

Anytime!

Yes they look really nice! As with all bigger wheels I'm sure they look even better IRL.

[Bimar]

not a fan, so i must be the only one they look odd on the X4 but ok on the X5.

[gc3]

I'd agree with inamik...not my cup of tea

[Anders R]

How much do these steamrollers weigh? Your roads must be a lot smoother than Belgian ones, 18" is a perfect compromise here.

[PIEZON]

Originally Posted by inamik75

not a fan, so i must be the only one they look odd on the X4 but ok on the X5.

How do you like the x4?

[Bimar]

Originally Posted by PIEZON

How do you like the x4?

X4 is amazing chose it over the Macan, I will be posting my 1000km review hopefully by the weekend in the X4 forum.
Check out my X4 Macan crosshopping thread here that has elicited some heated debates in the Macan forum -->> http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1038394

Btw handling of X4 is way better than X3 even without VDC and comfy too.

[PIEZON]

Originally Posted by inamik75

X4 is amazing chose it over the Macan, I will be posting my 1000km review hopefully by the weekend in the X4 forum.
Check out my X4 Macan crosshopping thread here that has elicited some heated debates in the Macan forum -->> http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1038394

Btw handling of X4 is way better than X3 even without VDC and comfy too.

Interesting!!!! 40i m sounds intriguing too. Can you put a hitch on it?

[PIEZON]

Originally Posted by inamik75

X4 is amazing chose it over the Macan, I will be posting my 1000km review hopefully by the weekend in the X4 forum.
Check out my X4 Macan crosshopping thread here that has elicited some heated debates in the Macan forum -->> http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1038394

Btw handling of X4 is way better than X3 even without VDC and comfy too.

You have intrigued me about the X4. I have not considered it. Was thinking it was like X3. I'm going to check out. So you really like it over Macan. Very interesting!

[clivem2]

Make sure the X4 is compared with an LCI X3. I'm not saying they'll be equal but the LCI has benefited from improvements vs the pre-LCI.

[PIEZON]

Originally Posted by clivem2

Make sure the X4 is compared with an LCI X3. I'm not saying they'll be equal but the LCI has benefited from improvements vs the pre-LCI.

I have the 2011. Any performance improvements?

[clivem2]

Originally Posted by PIEZON

I have the 2011. Any performance improvements?

The BMW figures suggest so but have they changed engine and gearbox mappings or is this marketing? It's not clear.

[Bimar]

Originally Posted by PIEZON

I have the 2011. Any performance improvements?

Interior is updated, idrive is newer, surround cameras are so awesome, driver assist, sound proofing quiet like a mouse, more standard option, more expensive than X3. The LCI X3 similar interior, but different body and sound proofing.
Note if you want exhaust note get the 35i for the N20s are just too quiet --->>> http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1050433

Did i mention it has more space than the Macan and longer than the X3?? However the Macan seats are just killer, plenty of video comparison on X4 forum.

On performance X4 quicker than any X3 by a few milli seconds as per the brochure, must be due to aerodynamics., there are also various aftermarket tunes if that's your cup of tea.The X4 M40i will be Macan turbo fast if not faster

Got to your local dealer and see if you like it especially the shape, see both Msport (which I feel BMW made car ugly) and Xline and decide for yourself. X4 not for everyone

[PIEZON]

Originally Posted by inamik75

Interior is updated, idrive is newer, surround cameras are so awesome, driver assist, sound proofing quiet like a mouse, more standard option, more expensive than X3. The LCI X3 similar interior, but different body and sound proofing.
Note if you want exhaust note get the 35i for the N20s are just too quiet --->>> http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1050433

Did i mention it has more space than the Macan and longer than the X3?? However the Macan seats are just killer, plenty of video comparison on X4 forum.

On performance X4 quicker than any X3 by a few milli seconds as per the brochure, must be due to aerodynamics., there are also various aftermarket tunes if that's your cup of tea.The X4 M40i will be Macan turbo fast if not faster

Got to your local dealer and see if you like it especially the shape, see both Msport (which I feel BMW made car ugly) and Xline and decide for yourself. X4 not for everyone

Thank you!

[MSport_Jon]

Originally Posted by X4guy

not a fan, so i must be the only one they look odd on the X4 but ok on the X5.

I agree, the reason the look good in the X5 and not the X3/4 is because the X5 has a higher diameter wheel/tire combo and thus the tire side wall is beefier... The X3/4 cant do that without some negative side effects and in trying to match the stock w/t diameter it looks like a wagon wheel.... i would stay away from them... you will have a harsh ride...

[MSport_Jon]

Originally Posted by X4guy

X4 is amazing chose it over the Macan, I will be posting my 1000km review hopefully by the weekend in the X4 forum.
Check out my X4 Macan crosshopping thread here that has elicited some heated debates in the Macan forum -->> http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1038394

Btw handling of X4 is way better than X3 even without VDC and comfy too.

im not sure i would say "WAY" better since both vehicle as based on the F2X platform and share about 95 percent of their parts... the X4 has a lower center of Gravity but to suggest it to be "way" better than the X3 is over-reaching in my opinion...

By the way, i have driven both M-Sport equivalents... They are both great, but they handle about the same. Acceleration and gear shifts more aggressive on the X4 which could be the reason the X4 is quicker (less than half a second) along with better aerodynamics. i could be crazy on this but i think engine sound on the X4 is being rerouted through the speakers. either that or the firewall sound absorbing materials are different... As far as length, they are less than an inch difference between the 2 (2.90 cm's) and you will in no shape or form see it or feel it...This could be due the rear bumper which is different. Passengers in the back will definite lose head space, specially tall ones. in the end, the X4 is an X3 with different roof that is 22 pounds lighter... if you want a sportier look and like hatch backs, go for the x4... if you want a sportier SUV with all the space you can get, i would go for the X3 and its cheaper too..!

[Bimar]

Originally Posted by MSport_Jon

im not sure i would say "WAY" better since both vehicle as based on the F2X platform and share about 95 percent of their parts... the X4 has a lower center of Gravity but to suggest it to be "way" better than the X3 is over-reaching in my opinion...

By the way, i have driven both M-Sport equivalents... They are both great, but they handle about the same. Acceleration and gear shifts more aggressive on the X4 which could be the reason the X4 is quicker (less than half a second) along with better aerodynamics. i could be crazy on this but i think engine sound on the X4 is being rerouted through the speakers. either that or the firewall sound absorbing materials are different... As far as length, they are less than an inch difference between the 2 (2.90 cm's) and you will in no shape or form see it or feel it...This could be due the rear bumper which is different. Passengers in the back will definite lose head space, specially tall ones. in the end, the X4 is an X3 with different roof that is 22 pounds lighter... if you want a sportier look and like hatch backs, go for the x4... if you want a sportier SUV with all the space you can get, i would go for the X3 and its cheaper too..!

100% no sound through speaker, my N20 super quiet I hear nothing. As you noted everything is tighter, faster, smoother on X4 without VDC, I can only imagine how much better with it, Same platform, different car and dynamics, X3 floaty without VDC or sport suspension, mine doesn't its Xline non Msport and everything is tight!