The G01 X3 1st drives reviews are in!

Bimar · 10-16-2017, 10:53 PM

Bimar · 10-16-2017, 10:56 PM

Looks like BMW told all Video reviewers “you must use corporate footage”

Teutonic · 10-16-2017, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW F22

In Europe gas is so expensive that most people prefer smaller, more efficient engines. Usually people would opt for a 2.0L diesel engines vs a 2.0 or 3.0 petrol ones (diesel is cheaper there as well). The US market will differ compared to European one.

Is not the fuel only that matters in the european equation. Once you pass 2.0 liter engine you are falling under a much higher tax bracket in European Union. Plus the tax for pollution, euro 2, 3, 4 and so on.
Diesel is the same as gas in price now that half or maybe more of Europe is diesel; there is also the more milleage you get from the diesel, plus the torque and engine’s longevity.

N & M · 10-17-2017, 01:09 AM

I have read a good portion of the English press and although the write ups were positive and complimentary the overall impression was that it was not a class best.

The car will sell, no doubt, but again I can’t help but feel that BMW is still in that Vanilla zone.

cc3 · 10-17-2017, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tracus

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Originally Posted by BMW F22

In Europe gas is so expensive that most people prefer smaller, more efficient engines. Usually people would opt for a 2.0L diesel engines vs a 2.0 or 3.0 petrol ones (diesel is cheaper there as well). The US market will differ compared to European one.

Is not the fuel only that matters in the european equation. Once you pass 2.0 liter engine you are falling under a much higher tax bracket in European Union. Plus the tax for pollution, euro 2, 3, 4 and so on.
Diesel is the same as gas in price now that half or maybe more of Europe is diesel; there is also the more milleage you get from the diesel, plus the torque and engine’s longevity.

The market is changing, diesel sales are falling fast as it now has a bad reputation for pollution. People want hybrid or petrol

BMW and other similar brands are having to offer big discounts to shift metal.

Art__Vandelay · 10-17-2017, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by N & M

I have read a good portion of the English press and although the write ups were positive and complimentary the overall impression was that it was not a class best.

The car will sell, no doubt, but again I can’t help but feel that BMW is still in that Vanilla zone.

Wonder what the competition did better here.

But I agree with some others that they could've done the front end better (especially the headlights). I prefer the F25 front, it looks more agressive.

ObsidianX · 10-17-2017, 06:32 AM

I think the new X3 M40i looks great. Once my M2 is paid off and my family no longer needs three rows of seats, Im planning to replace my wife?s car with an X3 M40i. We find the X5 just too big for an everyday around-town hauler.

Alan l. · 10-17-2017, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GFK007

There is absolutely no way that the front end of this thing is better looking than the f25 (which wasn't exactly pretty).

Styling is underwhelming - but that's been the theme from bmw since the G11 was released.

I agree 100%

That front end "mouth" area with the massive nostril grills just looks goofy to me. If I was shopping for a car in this segment I would be looking at the new SQ5 over this. Though not a fan of the fake exhaust "tips" on that car its better looking than this X3. Hopefully BMW fixes it with the X3M.

Alan

tastes jigga · 10-17-2017, 08:42 AM

I saw the X3 M40i this past weekend at the UDE in Arlington Heights, IL. Thought it looked good in person. Can't wait to drive one.

JSY · 10-17-2017, 08:54 AM

Interesting.. To each their own - I don't think it looks bad at all. I'm not sure I would have went with the hexagon lights and the sculpting if the rear lights are a little overdone to me but overall I think it's nice. Some reviewers seem to like it and others not, too. For as long as I've owned X3s. , every iteration seems to bring about a sharp divide in opinion of its looks.

I personally like it a lot more than the SQ5. Those trapezoidal lights...... And that nondescript rear.. Ugh... and I did consider it briefly earlier this year.

sor · 10-17-2017, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan l.

I agree 100%

That front end "mouth" area with the massive nostril grills just looks goofy to me. If I was shopping for a car in this segment I would be looking at the new SQ5 over this. Though not a fan of the fake exhaust "tips" on that car its better looking than this X3. Hopefully BMW fixes it with the X3M.

Alan

Different strokes I guess, I think it looks way better than the F25. Something weirdly cutesy about the squinting/slanted headlights on that. Then the LCI added a droopy look to the headlight. The G01 front just looks BMW, nothing amazing but nothing odd, and the rear is a great modern update.

epiphone3 · 10-17-2017, 09:11 AM

I'm surprised more people aren't discussing what appears to be the fact that there will be a 6-cylinder diesel in the North American variant. Motor Trend says this anyway. Sounds like a great option!

Orion141 · 10-17-2017, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sor

Different strokes I guess, I think it looks way better than the F25. Something weirdly cutesy about the squinting/slanted headlights on that. Then the LCI added a droopy look to the headlight. The G01 front just looks BMW, nothing amazing but nothing odd, and the rear is a great modern update.

I agree, I think the G01 is an improvement over prior X3 models both in terms of looks and interior fit/finish. And to me anyways looks much nicer than Audi q5 or volvo xc60. As such I am looking forward to receiving my G01. But as you said different strokes for different folks...

SpenceRx · 10-17-2017, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by N & M

I have read a good portion of the English press and although the write ups were positive and complimentary the overall impression was that it was not a class best.

The car will sell, no doubt, but again I can’t help but feel that BMW is still in that Vanilla zone.

I hope the fit and finish is class best. My F30 is feeling cheap compared to my friends new X1.

remmib · 10-17-2017, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tracus

Is not the fuel only that matters in the european equation. Once you pass 2.0 liter engine you are falling under a much higher tax bracket in European Union. Plus the tax for pollution, euro 2, 3, 4 and so on.
Diesel is the same as gas in price now that half or maybe more of Europe is diesel; there is also the more milleage you get from the diesel, plus the torque and engine’s longevity.

EU as a whole doesn't have a tax like that. Each country has their own taxes. As far as I know, a tax based on engine size isn't common.

Bimar · 10-17-2017, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MRV99

"BMW expect the X3 to supplant the X5 in the near future." I guess when the X3 is the size of the original e53 so I guess it makes sense. Plenty of space yet not huge like the newer x5's are becoming.

The F25 was already as big as the E53.

MdW86 · 10-17-2017, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by remmib

EU as a whole doesn't have a tax like that. Each country has their own taxes. As far as I know, a tax based on engine size isn't common.

Just to give you an European perspective on this x3 (from the Netherlands). The X3 20i will cost 58k euros, the 30i will be 72k and the 40i will be 90k. Also note that the current price for a gallon of gass is 5,73 euro (6,70 us dollar). Although i really like this car, thats a lot more then a f30

remmib · 10-17-2017, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Menno86

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Originally Posted by remmib

EU as a whole doesn't have a tax like that. Each country has their own taxes. As far as I know, a tax based on engine size isn't common.

Just to give you an European perspective on this x3 (from the Netherlands). The X3 20i will cost 58k euros, the 30i will be 72k and the 40i will be 90k. Also note that the current price for a gallon of gass is 5,73 euro (6,70 us dollar). Although i really like this car, thats a lot more then a f30

I?m actually in Norway so I know all about high car taxes, even though they?re been lowered some the last few years.

sygazelle · 10-17-2017, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ron_jeremy

Invited to release tomorrow evening.....

^^^

With a screen name like yours, please don't start a post with those words. Thanks.

ron_jeremy · 10-17-2017, 04:39 PM

So, just been to reveal of the new X3. Impressive SUV, BMW have done pretty much everything right. But there were no test driving at this stage. Impressive with the quality, better than F15 imo. And the Phytonic blue were awsome!

starbai · 10-17-2017, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GFK007

There is absolutely no way that the front end of this thing is better looking than the f25 (which wasn't exactly pretty).

Styling is underwhelming - but that's been the theme from bmw since the G11 was released.

looks are subjective. And I thin it looks leaps and bounds better.

Zirenz2006 · 10-17-2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by starbai

looks are subjective. And I thin it looks leaps and bounds better.

I do too...so much better than outgoing model.

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