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      03-24-2017, 04:59 PM   #2201
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Oh very interesting. How do you get it to automatically engage P, telescope and move back the seat?

Also it looks like the welcome screen is comepletely gone - just went straight to the normal menu. Any idea how to get it back without shutting off electronics with door open?
All BMW's engage park when you turn off engine.
The rest is coding.

no way without letting car sleep hours
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      03-24-2017, 06:52 PM   #2202
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All BMW's engage park when you turn off engine.
The rest is coding.

no way without letting car sleep hours
Why is that though? I only disabled the legal disclaimers and didn't do anything with the actual animal screen besides code a different variant.

Also, it seems super random. For example, I had my car turned off for like 15 mins earlier this afternoon and when I returned, the animation screen went on. After that, I left it off for about 5 hours, and just now when I went to it, no animation screen.
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      03-24-2017, 07:24 PM   #2203
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Why is that though? I only disabled the legal disclaimers and didn't do anything with the actual animal screen besides code a different variant.

Also, it seems super random. For example, I had my car turned off for like 15 mins earlier this afternoon and when I returned, the animation screen went on. After that, I left it off for about 5 hours, and just now when I went to it, no animation screen.
Maybe I misunderstood what you mean by welcome screen; I assumed you meant either the legal disclaimer.

Re boot animation: each vehicle is a little different. But, I have mine set to turn off electronics as many other do because I have no use for car to keep running as I am leaving; this way; without fail, I always get animation. I guess you have to decide what is more important, to see boot animation or continue listening to stereo. If you choose to not code my prefered way, then a few other suggestions include the following:
  • Observe how much time you waste between unlocking vehicle, getting into driver's seat, and pressing start. See if it makes a difference if you minimize time taken.
  • Do you use CA or keyFOB to lock?
  • Do you code for mirrors to fold with locking vehicle?
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I thought for safety purposes when you open the door or hit the start/stop button he car goes to P.

Now the rest of the stuff telescope/move the seat back I would interested.
Also how do you lock the car that puts windows up/folds the mirrors immediately?
I can do it but I have to hold the FOB button or hold comfort access.

Any pointers much appreciated.
Whether car goes into Neutral (N) or Park (P) depends on speed you are moving as well as if seat belt is buckled.

Do you have telescoping/electronic steering wheel? How about comfort seats with memory buttons? Search Easy Entry/Exit. Another helpful measurement link.

Re Windows & mirrors: The mirrors are all-or-nothing, but windows only continue movement if CA or keyFOB pressure is maintained. If my windows are all the way down, I use door rockerswitch as I have Window Safety disabled to allow continued movement when doors opened. Otherwise, I use CA to slightly close and fold.
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      03-24-2017, 08:21 PM   #2204
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Just thought I'd add that my coding for push to start without brake didn't seem to work.

Until, that is, I had the battery disconnected while adding an amp and subwoofer. Next time I tried it, I found that I could start it without my foot on the brake. Before, when trying to do that, it would click and die without turning over the motor.

I do however, wish it could be coded for single push to start, instead of press, long press.
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[QUOTE=Almaretto;21468856]Maybe I misunderstood what you mean by welcome screen; I assumed you meant either the legal disclaimer.

Re boot animation: each vehicle is a little different. But, I have mine set to turn off electronics as many other do because I have no use for car to keep running as I am leaving; this way; without fail, I always get animation. I guess you have to decide what is more important, to see boot animation or continue listening to stereo. If you choose to not code my prefered way, then a few other suggestions include the following:
  • Observe how much time you waste between unlocking vehicle, getting into driver's seat, and pressing start. See if it makes a difference if you minimize time taken.
  • Do you use CA or keyFOB to lock?
  • Do you code for mirrors to fold with locking vehicle?

Hm interesting. So to make me understand this better, what's the difference between shutting the electronics off immediately when I open the door, vs shutting it off when I lock the car? Either way in my mind, it's "turning off", which is why I thought its weird that the animation doesn't always start.

Good idea though, I should see if the quicker I turn it on, the better the change I'll have for the animation. I use CA to lock most of the time. I'm not sure if I have the code to mirror fold with locking vehicle - are you referring to folding when I lock the door no matter what? I don't recall seeing it in the cheat sheet, do you know what module specifically I need to reconfigure for that to happen? Would definitely be nice!
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      03-24-2017, 08:45 PM   #2206
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Hm interesting. So to make me understand this better, what's the difference between shutting the electronics off immediately when I open the door, vs shutting it off when I lock the car? Either way in my mind, it's "turning off", which is why I thought its weird that the animation doesn't always start.

Good idea though, I should see if the quicker I turn it on, the better the change I'll have for the animation. I use CA to lock most of the time. I'm not sure if I have the code to mirror fold with locking vehicle - are you referring to folding when I lock the door no matter what? I don't recall seeing it in the cheat sheet, do you know what module specifically I need to reconfigure for that to happen? Would definitely be nice!
I do not know the specifics. But, various aspects of the vehicle maintain power during different situations. Configuring electronics off with door open shuts down accessory (ignition only) mode.

Fold mirrors/roll up windows is on every Cheat Sheet as well as included in my Launcher Cheat Codes; for F010/F025 vehicles, settings are in FRM & CAS.
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      03-24-2017, 08:59 PM   #2207
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I do not know the specifics. But, various aspects of the vehicle maintain power during different situations. Configuring electronics off with door open shuts down accessory (ignition only) mode.

Fold mirrors/roll up windows is on every Cheat Sheet as well as included in my Launcher Cheat Codes; for F010/F025 vehicles, settings are in FRM & CAS.
Interesting, so you're saying that the way I have it now, it's essentially just "going to sleep" and not shutting down completely?
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Interesting, so you're saying that the way I have it now, it's essentially just "going to sleep" and not shutting down completely?
I have no way of knowing all your FDL's. I am saying mine completely shuts down and I always see boot animation upon starting cars.
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my exit process:
  1. Pull into space
  2. Press Start/Stop --> Vehicle automatically engages "P" & engine turns off.
  3. Open drivers door --> electronics automatically turn off, steering wheel telescopes in, and seat moves back
  4. Close door
  5. Lock vehicle with CA --> doors lock, mirrors fold, & windows roll up
what Chasis do you have? My mirrors fold when I lock it with fob, but can't seem to do it with CA. I looked it up on the coding cheatsheet, but it looks like it's for f30 that has fem_body, which I don't believe the f25 has. the only one that's relevant for the f25 closes mirrors/windows/moonroof but no folding of mirrors
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what Chasis do you have? My mirrors fold when I lock it with fob, but can't seem to do it with CA. I looked it up on the coding cheatsheet, but it looks like it's for f30 that has fem_body, which I don't believe the f25 has. the only one that's relevant for the f25 closes mirrors/windows/moonroof but no folding of mirrors
I have the chassis that are listed on my profile.
  • F010 & F025 have FRM/CAS
  • F015 has BDC_Body
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I have the chassis that are listed on my profile.
  • F010 & F025 have FRM/CAS
  • F015 has BDC_Body
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I did the turn off electronics when car doors open. I just starting the car up shortly after and no animation - suggestions?

Also, are you doing a one touch for your window fold in or do you hold the CA? I have it working for both fob and CA but want to know if there's a way to code it so that it folds in automatically when the engine shuts off or with "1 click" instead of a hold.
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Two quesitons:

I did the turn off electronics when car doors open. I just starting the car up shortly after and no animation - suggestions?

Also, are you doing a one touch for your window fold in or do you hold the CA? I have it working for both fob and CA but want to know if there's a way to code it so that it folds in automatically when the engine shuts off or with "1 click" instead of a hold.
How much time did you allow after coding vehicle, locking vehicle, and starting up again? Did you try also folding mirrors? Did you try with CA and keyfob to see if difference? Did you try minimizing time between unlock and starting vehicle?

The mirrors are all-or-nothing (ie folded or unfolded). The Windows/sunroof requires holding CA or keyFOB. I recently found G12/G30 setting that may allow one touch, but have not checked whether it works or if similar FDL exists on other chassis. For now, the best you can do is use door switch to automatically close windows completely or use keyFOB as you walk away; I know I can control windows as well as trunk from at least 50 ft away.
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How much time did you allow after coding vehicle, locking vehicle, and starting up again? Did you try also folding mirrors? Did you try with CA and keyfob to see if difference? Did you try minimizing time between unlock and starting vehicle?

The mirrors are all-or-nothing (ie folded or unfolded). The Windows/sunroof requires holding CA or keyFOB. I recently found G12/G30 setting that may allow one touch, but have not checked whether it works or if similar FDL exists on other chassis. For now, the best you can do is use door switch to automatically close windows completely or use keyFOB as you walk away; I know I can control windows as well as trunk from at least 50 ft away.
I gave the car a little over a minute. I can try again tomorrow when I go into my car and report back.

Yeah I think I understand the part about the mirror, but either way it sounds like if I want it to automatically fold, it will require the holding of either CA or FOB? I tried it with both. The one thing that I did notice was that if I have the mirrors folded, and unlock my car, it unfolds with a touch - so that's why I was curious as to if there's a way to either code the vehicle to fold the mirrors with "engine shutdown", or just "lock", instead of holding it. I mean at the end of the day, it's not a big deal to just press the button in my door to fold it, but I definitely don't see myself holding down CA or the FOB after locking the car just to fold the mirrors.
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Yeah I think I understand the part about the mirror, but either way it sounds like if I want it to automatically fold, it will require the holding of either CA or FOB? I tried it with both. The one thing that I did notice was that if I have the mirrors folded, and unlock my car, it unfolds with a touch - so that's why I was curious as to if there's a way to either code the vehicle to fold the mirrors with "engine shutdown", or just "lock", instead of holding it. I mean at the end of the day, it's not a big deal to just press the button in my door to fold it, but I definitely don't see myself holding down CA or the FOB after locking the car just to fold the mirrors.
The only associated behavior, of that I know, to engine condition (on/off) is door locks.

You can reduce or remove delay so that that mirrors fold sooner/tied to door lock (KMFRT_SCHLIESSEN). If you completely remove initiation delay, then you lose ability to disable interior alarm tilt sensor with double lock action.

Here is video with bad lighting:


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The only associated behavior, of that I know, to engine condition (on/off) is door locks.

You can reduce or remove delay so that that mirrors fold sooner/tied to door lock (KMFRT_SCHLIESSEN). If you completely remove initiation delay, then you lose ability to disable interior alarm tilt sensor with double lock action.

Here is video with bad lighting:

So reporting back. Still no luck with the animation screen. I have it set to lock and electronics off like you said, but I think it's doing the same thing as before where if I take more than 5 secondsish to unlock and turn on, it goes straight to the main menu. Any thoughts on what's going on there?

Also not sure if you'd know the answer to this or not, but I play google music through my iPhone via Bluetooth. Most of the times when I start playing no information displays on entertainment. I have to switch it to radio, then back to Bluetooth, for it to have the artist and lambing information. Any idea what's going on there?
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So reporting back. Still no luck with the animation screen. I have it set to lock and electronics off like you said, but I think it's doing the same thing as before where if I take more than 5 secondsish to unlock and turn on, it goes straight to the main menu. Any thoughts on what's going on there?

Also not sure if you'd know the answer to this or not, but I play google music through my iPhone via Bluetooth. Most of the times when I start playing no information displays on entertainment. I have to switch it to radio, then back to Bluetooth, for it to have the artist and lambing information. Any idea what's going on there?
When I shot video yesterday after locking and unlocking multiple times, I did not see animation. I suspect because vehicle had woken up already.

i have no idea as I never stream music via BT.
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When I shot video yesterday after locking and unlocking multiple times, I did not see animation. I suspect because vehicle had woken up already.

i have no idea as I never stream music via BT.
Hm, so I guess there isn't a way to guarantee the animation? I'm assuming that the system is "starting up" as soon as you unlock?
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Hm, so I guess there isn't a way to guarantee the animation? I'm assuming that the system is "starting up" as soon as you unlock?
I am still saying that I generally always see animation on every startup. The exception was while rapidly testing unlock/lock & shooting video; as such, I likely needed more than a half minute to allow vehicle to sleep.

If video is that important to you, you can always watch anytime you want on youtube:
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I am still saying that I generally always see animation on every startup. The exception was while rapidly testing unlock/lock & shooting video; as such, I likely needed more than a half minute to allow vehicle to sleep.

If video is that important to you, you can always watch anytime you want on youtube:
haha, yeah I guess it's just a little addon that would be nice to have. It sounds like, from previous posts, that the system starts turning on as soon as the doors are unlocked, either via CA or FOB.


Thanks for all your help so far, Almaretto!

shawnsheridan I've seen you post in a couple of the threads about the start up navigation. It sounds like some people were saying that it could be possible to delay the system start after unlocking the doors, although, I couldn't find a confirmation on how to code this. Do you have any recommendations for this?

For context, I changed my animation screen to ///m and won't see the intro animation unless I pretty much start the car within a few seconds of unlocking the door.
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I am still saying that I generally always see animation on every startup. The exception was while rapidly testing unlock/lock & shooting video; as such, I likely needed more than a half minute to allow vehicle to sleep.

If video is that important to you, you can always watch anytime you want on youtube:
sorry, another silly question for you. After I did my initial coding, does my token ever expire? I tried connecting back to my car today but there for some reason was no connection. Not sure if I need to regenerate a token or if I'm doing something wrong. I had my car powered on and made sure the cable was secure on both the car and the laptop.
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sorry, another silly question for you. After I did my initial coding, does my token ever expire? I tried connecting back to my car today but there for some reason was no connection. Not sure if I need to regenerate a token or if I'm doing something wrong. I had my car powered on and made sure the cable was secure on both the car and the laptop.
Yes, .EST Token has a Validity Period, but this has nothing to do with Connection to car. .EST Token is used only post connection and for FDL Coding only.
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Yes, .EST Token has a Validity Period, but this has nothing to do with Connection to car. .EST Token is used only post connection and for FDL Coding only.
Oh interesting. Im charging my computer and will try again in a few hours.

Any thoughts on my previous question about the intros animation?
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