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      03-14-2011, 01:02 AM   #23
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isnt that illegal? And theres lots of problems like what if u need repair right lol
Illegal? No. There is no law stating that you can't do this.

Difficult to buy a new car from a dealer? Yes. Dealers are told by corporate HQ not to sell to foreigners. It they do, they run the risk of losing their dealership.

But... you can buy a demo or used model very easily. As long as it's been registered in someones name other than the dealership, you can buy it, bring it across the border and enjoy the standard 4yr warranty.

But back on topic, the dealer charges here in Ottawa:

Freight: 700
PDI: 1300
Doc Fee: 250
Globali Fee: 250
AC Tax: 100
Tire Tax: 24

Total: 2624

That is ridiculus. How do car dealers get away with this? When I buy groceries, I don't have to pay shipping or inspection fees on the apples I buy, but they get shipped all the same and inspected too.
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      03-14-2011, 01:13 AM   #24
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isnt that illegal? And theres lots of problems like what if u need repair right lol
Illegal? No. There is no law stating that you can't do this.

Difficult to buy a new car from a dealer? Yes. Dealers are told by corporate HQ not to sell to foreigners. It they do, they run the risk of losing their dealership.

But... you can buy a demo or used model very easily. As long as it's been registered in someones name other than the dealership, you can buy it, bring it across the border and enjoy the standard 4yr warranty.

But back on topic, the dealer charges here in Ottawa:

Freight: 700
PDI: 1300
Doc Fee: 250
Globali Fee: 250
AC Tax: 100
Tire Tax: 24

Total: 2624

That is ridiculus. How do car dealers get away with this? When I buy groceries, I don't have to pay shipping or inspection fees on the apples I buy, but they get shipped all the same and inspected too.
Because cars are evil. They kill polar bears. Haven't you heard?
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      03-14-2011, 12:15 PM   #25
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But back on topic, the dealer charges here in Ottawa:

Freight: 700
PDI: 1300
Doc Fee: 250
Globali Fee: 250
AC Tax: 100
Tire Tax: 24

Total: 2624

That is ridiculus. How do car dealers get away with this? When I buy groceries, I don't have to pay shipping or inspection fees on the apples I buy, but they get shipped all the same and inspected too.

That is ridiculous Does anyone know what dealers in BC are charging or would it be same as Ottawa's?

When I build my X3 at BMW.ca it comes to: $60,600 (all packages, nevada leather, no HUD) that's not including the M-Sport package so I will assume it's about $2500

Is this a good estimate if I order in BC:

X3 35i $60,600 (All Packages, Nevada Leather) + $2500 (M-Sport) + $2700 (Freight, PDI, Documents...) = $65,800 before taxes
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      03-15-2011, 11:19 AM   #26
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It's a bit hard to compare each others prices with different options and packages, but lets try a simpler version (percentage discount from MSRP and what taxes/dealer garges do you pay for?).

In Montreal X3 35i:
- I got 2% off from MSRP
- I only pay: $1,995 for Transport & Prep, $15 for Tire Tax and GST+PST.

How about you guys?
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      03-15-2011, 12:17 PM   #27
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It's a bit hard to compare each others prices with different options and packages, but lets try a simpler version (percentage discount from MSRP and what taxes/dealer garges do you pay for?).

In Montreal X3 35i:
- I got 2% off from MSRP
- I only pay: $1,995 for Transport & Prep, $15 for Tire Tax and GST+PST.

How about you guys?
I got 1.5% off and free tints ..I also worked out where they are buying the tires from me for 175cad each, and now I have to buy winter/summers instead of their 'all season'. In MTL, too.

Are you getting summer wheels?
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      03-15-2011, 12:43 PM   #28
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Just to make you guys feel better....

In Brazil, it would cost you over USD120,000 for an base MY10 X3 30i, and over USD150,000 for a MY11 335 sedan, base.

I don't know the price for the MY11 X3


If you have a friend in the states that is ready to buy one for you... there is nothing stoping you from paying him for it and driving it up... you would need to pay taxes in the states and taxes to bring it up but there would't be any duties (NAFTA). There are a few companies that could help with the importation process as well.
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      03-15-2011, 01:42 PM   #29
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There are rare times I enjoy living in Alberta and this is one of those times as we don't have to pay HST just the GST. I would have to reconsider the X3 if I had to pay $73,000 + for a fully loaded 35i
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      03-15-2011, 01:54 PM   #30
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I got 1.5% off and free tints ..I also worked out where they are buying the tires from me for 175cad each, and now I have to buy winter/summers instead of their 'all season'. In MTL, too.

Are you getting summer wheels?

I did not decide on the tires yet since I'm still waiting for my car to arrive, but they should all be run flat for whatever season (if we have any other season here in M.O. except winter). Safety is priority, while comfort ride, expenses... are not nothing but all secondary to me.

Any taxes and dealer's charges on your invoice?

Maybe we can help others to get better pricing then anyone of us here if they know what they should aim for.

Oh yeah, in Brasil they have nice beaches, Pele, coffee...... hard to compare regions as well.
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      03-15-2011, 06:10 PM   #31
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I got a 3.5% discount off MSRP...but I got a very basic model...basically a X3 28i + metallic color (mineral silver) + multi-function trunk tray. They exchanged the carpeted floormats for all-season floormats for free. That is it. If I recall correctly, after all the taxes, documentation fees, tire tax, etc...I paid around 50,000CAD cash...
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      03-16-2011, 05:06 PM   #32
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BMW in Vancouver quoted me the following for dealer options:

-$100 air conditioning tax
-$20 advanced disposal fee
-$5 battery levy
-$2195 freight & pdi
-$295 documentation fee
-$199 theft recovery

I haven't ordered the car yet so I haven't negotiated anything at this moment.
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      03-16-2011, 06:14 PM   #33
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BMW in Vancouver quoted me the following for dealer options:

-$100 air conditioning tax
-$20 advanced disposal fee
-$5 battery levy
-$2195 freight & pdi
-$295 documentation fee
-$199 theft recovery

I haven't ordered the car yet so I haven't negotiated anything at this moment.

I see that your charges are about $700 more then mine. You should consider the fact that Vancouver is a bit further away and as you said this is your first approach to the dealer. My first was nothing better then yours and I went to couple of different ones. Keep pushing and let us know how did it go. Good luck!
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      03-16-2011, 07:40 PM   #34
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BMW in Vancouver quoted me the following for dealer options:

-$100 air conditioning tax
-$20 advanced disposal fee
-$5 battery levy
-$2195 freight & pdi
-$295 documentation fee
-$199 theft recovery

I haven't ordered the car yet so I haven't negotiated anything at this moment.
Hi Nick, is this the same for all dealers in Vancouver? What model are you planning on getting?
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      03-16-2011, 09:48 PM   #35
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BMW in Vancouver quoted me the following for dealer options:

-$100 air conditioning tax
-$20 advanced disposal fee
-$5 battery levy
-$2195 freight & pdi
-$295 documentation fee
-$199 theft recovery

I haven't ordered the car yet so I haven't negotiated anything at this moment.
The first 3 on your list are govt mandated, so not negotiable. The $199 theft recovery thing is a dealer-add-on, not needed, and I would refuse it totally. In Kelowna, the freight & PDI is $2495 and the doc fee is $495.
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      03-17-2011, 02:07 AM   #36
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Hi Nick, is this the same for all dealers in Vancouver? What model are you planning on getting?
I'm planning on getting the M package 335 with exec, tech and premium package.
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      03-17-2011, 06:58 AM   #37
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The first 3 on your list are govt mandated, so not negotiable. The $199 theft recovery thing is a dealer-add-on, not needed, and I would refuse it totally. In Kelowna, the freight & PDI is $2495 and the doc fee is $495.
I hope I don't get these 3 mentioned charges applied to me later when I get the car, but my invoice right now has listed these 3 items and the price next to them is zero. I guess, dealer can pick up the bill on those points or the rules in Quebec are different from those in B.C.
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      03-23-2011, 01:46 PM   #38
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I managed to get 4.5% off for my X3 28i before tax.....
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      04-11-2011, 01:20 PM   #39
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Hey Gareth,
Do you mind telling me what options you got. I'm getting mine loaded and the dealer doesnt want to budge off msrp
Many thanks
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Try www.carcostcanada.com and pay the $40 to get the invoice pricing. Print out, take to dealer, tell them you will pay $500 over that amount.
This site is free.....

http://www.carsaver.ca/
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      04-11-2011, 01:42 PM   #41
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Do you mind telling me what options you got. I'm getting mine loaded and the dealer doesnt want to budge off msrp
Many thanks
Space Grey X3 28i plus premium and executive packages.....
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