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      03-11-2011, 07:31 PM   #1
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Angry Canadians: Speak to this!

Its getting on my nerves how we have to pay so much more than our neighbours down south. I keep reading comments that are like 500 over invoice ect..(1st of all i dont even know what over invoice means someone explain?)

It seems like they are paying less than 50g in totoal? But My "totoal deffered balance" is 78,000! Almost 80grand is a huge difference from what I am reading on this thread, is this true for the rest of you Canadians out there?
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Its getting on my nerves how we have to pay so much more than our neighbours down south. I keep reading comments that are like 500 over invoice ect..(1st of all i dont even know what over invoice means someone explain?)

It seems like they are paying less than 50g in totoal? But My "totoal deffered balance" is 78,000! Almost 80grand is a huge difference from what I am reading on this thread, is this true for the rest of you Canadians out there?
Invoice is the price the dealer pays for the car from the manufacturer (although with "holdbacks" that is debatable). So the less you pay over invoice the better deal you feel you got.
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      03-11-2011, 08:30 PM   #3
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Its getting on my nerves how we have to pay so much more than our neighbours down south. I keep reading comments that are like 500 over invoice ect..(1st of all i dont even know what over invoice means someone explain?)

It seems like they are paying less than 50g in totoal? But My "totoal deffered balance" is 78,000! Almost 80grand is a huge difference from what I am reading on this thread, is this true for the rest of you Canadians out there?
Goddamn!!! Is that X35i with all options??
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      03-11-2011, 09:12 PM   #4
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how are you paying that much I'm at $64,000 with all the options but heads up display on a white M Sport 35i including GST.
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      03-11-2011, 09:39 PM   #5
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Try www.carcostcanada.com and pay the $40 to get the invoice pricing. Print out, take to dealer, tell them you will pay $500 over that amount.
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how are you paying that much I'm at $64,000 with all the options but heads up display on a white M Sport 35i including GST.
Only 64? Well my totoal vehicle price less trade in is 63,000. + 7,500HST + Partial payment 3,000 + Amount due on delivery 3000 = 78,000.

Someone pls tell me whats going on here..
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      03-11-2011, 09:47 PM   #7
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Try www.carcostcanada.com and pay the $40 to get the invoice pricing. Print out, take to dealer, tell them you will pay $500 over that amount.
is there one for USA like that besides zag?
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Get use to the rip off .. I been struggling with it for years.
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      03-12-2011, 11:38 AM   #9
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is there one for USA like that besides zag?
Edmunds.com, has a true market value (TMV) feature, which shows you what people are actually paying for a certain car in your area based on sales figures. It also gives you the invoice pricing for comparison. The X3 TMV prices are "estimates" because it does not have enough sales data, but what I ended up ordering the car for was just below its estimate, so even that is pretty good.
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Get use to the rip off .. I been struggling with it for years.
How much did you pay?

Anyone else paying similar price as me..maybe its because i leased? How much differnce does it make?
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is there one for USA like that besides zag?
I've heard of ZAG before but do not have any experience with it. Try the Costco discount and ask your dealer for the actual price list. Any dealer who participates in the Costco program will has a large list for every car including different engine configurations that shows the price you have to pay above the invoice for the car
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Only 64? Well my totoal vehicle price less trade in is 63,000. + 7,500HST + Partial payment 3,000 + Amount due on delivery 3000 = 78,000.

Someone pls tell me whats going on here..
Kalopop,

Your calculations seem to be wrong.

Your car is costing you 63,000 + 7,500 HST = 70,500. If you owe $3,000 on delivery, which is your downpayment (plus admin fees, etc), then you really owe another 67,500 on the car, which would be financed or paid in cash. You don't add your due on delivery to the total price..
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Kalopop,

Your calculations seem to be wrong.

Your car is costing you 63,000 + 7,500 HST = 70,500. If you owe $3,000 on delivery, which is your downpayment (plus admin fees, etc), then you really owe another 67,500 on the car, which would be financed or paid in cash. You don't add your due on delivery to the total price..
well wrong or not the big number at the bottom of the page is 78,000. I think this is beceause i live in vancouver, but still so much more expensive its ridiculous
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If it's ok for a swedish I would like to let of some steam
For a quite full X3 3.0d I pay 91000usd. Someone is earning money here... Not me!

Oh I forgot it have to be transported across some water and it's expensive, like 30g or something last time I checked
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That's kinda ridiculous. When I bought my 330i in 2006 I went with all the packages and ended up paying about $61k for it. The options are always over priced and they make pretty decent margins on those. Not to mention the fact that, in hindsight, I didn't need most of them.

I was a bit more strategic this time with minimal options on a xDrive28i. They ended up giving me $1800 off sticker.
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Do tints come standard on the X35 in Canada? The dealer wanted to charge me 425 but I see online it comes with privacy glass...
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Do tints come standard on the X35 in Canada? The dealer wanted to charge me 425 but I see online it comes with privacy glass...
BMW privacy glass is lightly smoked glass rather than a full on tint
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Do tints come standard on the X35 in Canada? The dealer wanted to charge me 425 but I see online it comes with privacy glass...
Yes, just got mine delivered (Montreal). All windows are tinted, including the front side windows.

The dealer's tint is a film that they add that makes it darker. I've always driven tinted window cars, and I like my windows as dark as possible, so I'll be going back to get that done.
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Only 64? Well my totoal vehicle price less trade in is 63,000. + 7,500HST + Partial payment 3,000 + Amount due on delivery 3000 = 78,000.

Someone pls tell me whats going on here..
Easy: Your car has every single option. Go to BMW.ca, "build your own". With every single option, price is $63,400. Add ~$2000 "prep" = $65,400. With 14% sales tax, it becomes $74,556.

The rest might be other stuff you bought: nicer tires, extended warranties, window tint, etc.
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well wrong or not the big number at the bottom of the page is 78,000. I think this is beceause i live in vancouver, but still so much more expensive its ridiculous
Oh I see. Sorry I thought you were adding it up yourself..
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I'm buying mine in the usa
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I'm buying mine in the usa
isnt that illegal? And theres lots of problems like what if u need repair right lol
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