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      11-10-2012, 04:28 PM   #1
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Number of buttons on the key. On what it depends?

Some have 4 buttons on their keys, some only 3... On what it depends?
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All Fxx keys have 4 buttons standard: unlock button, lock button, trunk button and finally the spotlight button. The Exx have 3.
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All Fxx keys have 4 buttons standard: unlock button, lock button, trunk button and finally the spotlight button. The Exx have 3.
I have a X3 F25 but it only has 3 buttons- unlock, lock & trunk. What's the spotlight button?
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One press activates the headlamp courtesy delay or pathway feature. A long press (3 seconds) activates the panic mode of the alarm system.
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I have a X3 F25 but it only has 3 buttons- unlock, lock & trunk. What's the spotlight button?
Do you not have a diamond button under the boot open button? Works as per Nahoa's description
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      11-11-2012, 04:20 PM   #6
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Do you not have a diamond button under the boot open button? Works as per Nahoa's description
NO!! Only Three buttons. What's happened to my missing button? Only as part of another option?
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      11-11-2012, 05:28 PM   #7
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My key has 4 buttons. However, there is no "diamond" on the 4th button, but rather a red panic horn. As far as I know, they have the same functions - click for courtesy lights, and hold for panic alarm.
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The fourth button is only for key-less cars ... i think?
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Nope! I have keyless and no 4th button...
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Xenons maybe?

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Xenons+adaptive lights+interior lights... no 4th button
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Xenons maybe?

OK, this is strange. I have the same key as SFAX. Here are a bit of the setup on my X3 that could have something to do with it:

Xenons
High Beam Assistant
Auto tailgate
Theft alarm
Fog lights
PDC
Light package (interior and in doorhandles)
Auto dim mirrors
Back cam with top view
Panorama sunroof
Auto start/stop
Park Distance Control
Electronic tailgate


In addition a lot of unknown AG and factory codes
1CA
230
8KA
8SM
8TG
8TN
8V2
840
877
925


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Well, I'm stumped. Part of folding and auto-dimming mirrors? Lotus would know....
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Well, I'm stumped. Part of folding and auto-dimming mirrors? Lotus would know....
Nope, I have folding autodimming mirrors and only have 3 buttons......
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Interesting, my X3 has all options mentioned by Richard, plus one or two others, no keyless entry though, but I also don't have the fourth button
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I think it's a recent USA/elsewhere thing, in that cars destined for the USA still have the forth button, but the rest of the world just has the lock, unlock and boot buttons. With sfax having a relatively early build, this expalins why he has the diamond button.

On my car, which is an August 2012 build, I have comfort access, powered bootlid, folding mirrors and xenons, and I have the 3 buttons mentioned above.
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They don't make 'em like they used to....
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I think it's a recent USA/elsewhere thing, in that cars destined for the USA still have the forth button, but the rest of the world just has the lock, unlock and boot buttons. With sfax having a relatively early build, this expalins why he has the diamond button.

On my car, which is an August 2012 build, I have comfort access, powered bootlid, folding mirrors and xenons, and I have the 3 buttons mentioned above.
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I think it's a recent USA/elsewhere thing, in that cars destined for the USA still have the forth button, but the rest of the world just has the lock, unlock and boot buttons. With sfax having a relatively early build, this expalins why he has the diamond button.

On my car, which is an August 2012 build, I have comfort access, powered bootlid, folding mirrors and xenons, and I have the 3 buttons mentioned above.
Why remove this feature for non USA bound cars? Saves a per pence/cents on the car costs? I presume all the electrics are still in the car to support the 4th button. I wonder if the electrics are still in the fob (just the button removed?). I can get the back off my key, but don't want to break it in two to see the PCB.

Maybe BMW think you should be using your phone app to flash the lights, unless you've got the Android version which is
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Why remove this feature for non USA bound cars? Saves a per pence/cents on the car costs? I presume all the electrics are still in the car to support the 4th button. I wonder if the electrics are still in the fob (just the button removed?). I can get the back off my key, but don't want to break it in two to see the PCB.

Maybe BMW think you should be using your phone app to flash the lights, unless you've got the Android version which is
Using the remote app would be a poor substitute in any case as it takes over a minute to respond and it flashes 3 times rather than just keeps them on for a short time

A better substitute is to unlock your car but that has some disadvantages like unnecessarily moving seats and mirrors and switching on internal lights. Car will lock again automatically if you have that set up and forget to lock.

Perhaps a knowledgeable dealer would know the answer as to why they took it away
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I have this one too (4 buttons)



And I'm in Canada. 2011 F25 28i: I have xenon, folding and auto-dimming mirrors, back cam with top view, panorama sunroof, park Distance Control, but no comfort access and no light package.
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I have this one too (4 buttons)



And I'm in Canada. 2011 F25 28i: I have xenon, folding and auto-dimming mirrors, back cam with top view, panorama sunroof, park Distance Control, but no comfort access and no light package.
My 28i is almost the same as yours except I have the comfort access..... and I have 4 buttons on my FOB.....
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