BMW X3 Forum
BMW X3 Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
XBimmers | BMW X3 Forum > BMW X3 Forums | F25 (2011 - Current) > Second Generation BMW X3 General Forum » X3 Brakes

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-26-2012, 04:35 PM   #1
mynextbmw
New Member
 
Drives: X3 35
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: VA

Posts: 15
iTrader: (0)

X3 Brakes

Guys,

My wife bought the 13 X3 35i in May. SHe thinks the brakes arent very good and the car takes forever to stop. She has the M Sport Package.

WIthout going into detail what other car makes do with their brakes etc.

WHat are the options? Are there BMW Parts for upgrardes? I saw an article on the forum how the new 3 has blue brakes etc. DO those work on the X3? Are they big enough for the bigger car?

Thanks
mynextbmw is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-26-2012, 06:26 PM   #2
Mingstar88
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: BMW X3 35i Carbon Black MSport
Join Date: May 2011
Location: GTA

Posts: 220
iTrader: (0)

35i has bigger brakes, i drove 28i loaner, the 35i brakes faster. the problem can be your wife, did u drive it to see?
Mingstar88 is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      08-26-2012, 06:50 PM   #3
mynextbmw
New Member
 
Drives: X3 35
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: VA

Posts: 15
iTrader: (0)

yea i did, the brakes are weak or i would not post. i need to call the parts shop and see if they sell bigger ones.

checking with the folks here as i have seen a post in the past which says bmw is doing something about it as an accessory - not sure if its made it as an accessory and gone downstream to the dealerships as yet.
mynextbmw is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-26-2012, 07:19 PM   #4
ZipSpeed
Private
 
ZipSpeed's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 X3 xDrive35i
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Calgary, Alberta

Posts: 70
iTrader: (0)

I find the brakes to be quite good IMO. Above average anyway compared to my Forester.
ZipSpeed is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      08-26-2012, 07:23 PM   #5
mynextbmw
New Member
 
Drives: X3 35
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: VA

Posts: 15
iTrader: (0)

Found the link

http://www.shopbmwusa.com/ProductLis...=144&perf=true

the m performance brakes dont fit the X3

BMW Performance Front Axle Brake System
BMW M Performance Brake System
Orange, Red, Yellow


Guys, all im saying is after driving performance machines. the brakes need to be better. You guys should get drive an M for a a few hundred miles.
mynextbmw is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-26-2012, 07:29 PM   #6
bmw b
New Member
 
Drives: Bicycle
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: California

Posts: 5
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mynextbmw View Post
Found the link

http://www.shopbmwusa.com/ProductLis...=144&perf=true

the m performance brakes dont fit the X3

BMW Performance Front Axle Brake System
BMW M Performance Brake System
Orange, Red, Yellow


Guys, all im saying is after driving performance machines. the brakes need to be better. You guys should get drive an M for a a few hundred miles.
You need to also remember that a large function of braking is the TIRE and not necessarily all about the size of the caliper and rotor.
bmw b is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-26-2012, 10:53 PM   #7
blangin
New Member
 
Drives: 06 330i
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: sacramento

Posts: 22
iTrader: (0)

Coming from an 06 330i - This was my first complaint when I had my first service. The brakes are terrible IMO. I understand it won't brake like a sedan will but it needs to do better. I didn't notice this same issue with the X5's.
blangin is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-27-2012, 01:26 AM   #8
nonagon
Lieutenant
 
nonagon's Avatar
 
Drives: '12 X3 35i M Sport
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Arlington VA

Posts: 574
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by blangin
Coming from an 06 330i - This was my first complaint when I had my first service. The brakes are terrible IMO. I understand it won't brake like a sedan will but it needs to do better. I didn't notice this same issue with the X5's.
Nothing wrong with the brakes on mine, and I drive fast. It's a 4222 lb. SUV, not a small car so you have to start braking a bit earlier. Obviously improvements can be made but the brakes handle the weight fine.
__________________
2012 X3 35i | CB/Oyster | M Sport | Premium | Tech | CW I & II | DHP | Premium Audio | Apps
-----
Past Bimmers: 2008 135i SGM, 2007 X3 3.0si SBM
nonagon is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      08-27-2012, 09:22 AM   #9
n55x3
Captain
 
Drives: n55 BMWs
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: us - ohio

Posts: 710
iTrader: (0)

I take it you feel they just don't bite as hard as you are expecting? I also have a similar feeling when lazily stopping. It feels like there isn't much initial bite and I do think this is associated with the electronic brake force distribution. In an effort to keep nose dive at a minimum for safety (less chance of an oversteer situation when braking AND turning due to the rear axle being loaded versus the front) and comfort reasons (flat suspension at all 4 corners), in a normal stop, the rear brakes really drag. Also one of the reasons the rears wear out so much quicker. I find that I have to use more pedal pressure (equates to a deeper pedal push) to really get the front brakes to bite. I can even modulate the pedal travel from a light lazy push where the chassis stays level to pressing another half inch or so and really feeling the front calipers bite. When the fronts bite I can really feel it and stopping power is decent.

Obviously you are not stranger to good brakes. Your CTS-V brakes hard and fast all day long. Initial bite is very good, at least in the sedan version which I've had some seat time with.

When our pads are due for service I MAY decide to go with a bit more aggressive pad compound. I've ran Hawk HPS pads for years and really like them on my play cars.

Only other option is a BBK which I really haven't seen available yet. The F30 has some OEM aftermarket options but I honestly have no idea if those packages would work based on our offsets and wheel sizes.
n55x3 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-27-2012, 10:50 AM   #10
monza2t
Private First Class
 
monza2t's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 328i, R52 Mini, F25 X3 x35
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Kansas City

Posts: 161
iTrader: (0)

The stopping dist should be 42m from 60mph. For reference a 328i is 40m and an m3 is 37m. 42 isnt terrible, but not class leading either

I would recommend asking your service tech to see if they have dealt with this before. I would be surprised if they haven't.

Also in the past I have dealt with this sort of issue with better pads and freshly turned rotors to break the pads in good. OE pads are 'ok' but others are way better
__________________
_____________________________________________
E90 328i Sport & Prem // R52 MINI S JCW // X3 x35i
62 Mini Cooper 997 // 62 Vespa // Laphroaig 30-yr
monza2t is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-27-2012, 11:44 AM   #11
n55x3
Captain
 
Drives: n55 BMWs
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: us - ohio

Posts: 710
iTrader: (0)

Another thing worth mentioning along the lines of more aggressive pads is that the F30 has a couple versions of pads for the same cars depending on where in the world they are sold. Rumor has it that the MSport US models will now get the Euro-spec'd pads. These pads offer better initial bite but will have more brake dust and potentially more chatter than the US pads on non- MSport cars. I wonder if the Erup X3s have different pads than their US cousins. Might be able to get the dealer to install the Euro spec'd pads since they are OEM products.
n55x3 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-27-2012, 12:44 PM   #12
gferguson
New Member
 
Drives: X3
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Huntsville, AL

Posts: 20
iTrader: (0)

Noticed this also in my new X35. Have to press harder on the pedal to stop than in my previous 2008 328i. I will wait until it is broken in before raising the issue with the dealer.
gferguson is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-27-2012, 01:45 PM   #13
rmeir
Private First Class
 
Drives: x3
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: chicago il

Posts: 159
iTrader: (0)

im coming from a tundra p/u and they dont stop it at all. I find the x3 brakes much superior. maybe perspective, and maybe you need to press on the pedal harder.
rmeir is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-27-2012, 07:16 PM   #14
ctwickman
New Member
 
Drives: -
Join Date: May 2012
Location: West Virginia

Posts: 26
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mingstar88 View Post
35i has bigger brakes, i drove 28i loaner, the 35i brakes faster. the problem can be your wife, did u drive it to see?
No the 28i and 35i brakes are exactly the same and the 28i should stop faster because it weighs less.
ctwickman is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-28-2012, 02:59 AM   #15
calagod
Green Light
 
calagod's Avatar
 
Drives: 11/11 X3 20d MPack Carbonblack
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Germany

Posts: 39
iTrader: (0)

One comment from Germany, my feeling is that the brake "power" is ok, but there is a kind "reaction"-second, which can scare the drivers that are not used to it
or at least can cause an irritation, when you are new on the driver seat f the X3 F25.
Especcially when you are using cruise control the feeling while first moment of braking is strange because the car seems not to slow down for a second. Sorry for my bad English.
calagod is offline   Germany
0
Reply With Quote
      08-28-2012, 11:26 AM   #16
Jurisprudent
Second Lieutenant
 
Jurisprudent's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 X3 35i
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Charleston, SC

Posts: 224
iTrader: (0)

Perhaps it's just a placebo thing, but I have noticed that my brakes seem to have improved after the first 1500 miles or so. I noticed the same exact thing when I had my brakes redone on my previous 330i. I don't know if it was/is more a matter of me getting used to the required pedal pressure as compared to the car I was previously driving, or if they actually took a little time to break-in. In both cases, the brakes work just fine, it's just that the pedal pressure required to really get some bite was more than perhaps I was used to.
__________________
Jurisprudent is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-28-2012, 04:38 PM   #17
Nahoa
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: F25 35i Mineral Silver/Black
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Virginia

Posts: 1,876
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mynextbmw View Post
Found the link

http://www.shopbmwusa.com/ProductLis...=144&perf=true

the m performance brakes dont fit the X3

BMW Performance Front Axle Brake System
BMW M Performance Brake System
Orange, Red, Yellow


Guys, all im saying is after driving performance machines. the brakes need to be better. You guys should get drive an M for a a few hundred miles.

If you want your car to brake like an M-car, buy an M-car. BMW standard braking is at the top of the industry. If this set-up can't stop you in time, you're following too close, simply driving too fast, or too scared to actually press the brake pedal to get what you need.
__________________

Last edited by Nahoa; 08-28-2012 at 04:45 PM.
Nahoa is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      08-28-2012, 04:43 PM   #18
epiphone3
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 2013 BMW X3 35i
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary

Posts: 1,647
iTrader: (0)

From driving my E90 and the F25 X3, I think the brake pedal is just more progressive than that of a 3-series. THis is likely due to the market they are aimed at. I found the X3 simply required a little more pedal travel to get similar bite to my E90.
epiphone3 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-28-2012, 09:31 PM   #19
96_Impreza
Private
 
96_Impreza's Avatar
 
Drives: 96 Impreza,07 Vette,11 X3 35i
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque

Posts: 76
iTrader: (0)

If braking is a prime concern get a Chevy.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/m...t/viewall.html
96_Impreza is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-29-2012, 07:28 PM   #20
mynextbmw
New Member
 
Drives: X3 35
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: VA

Posts: 15
iTrader: (0)

http://www.leftlanenews.com/next-gen...s-instead.html

something to look out for in the next m sports packages, or with the M badges next time around. The Brakes!!

Did not catch it on this purchase, the last line in the article.
mynextbmw is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-06-2012, 09:27 AM   #21
Ranger 6
Private
 
Ranger 6's Avatar
 
Drives: X3 3.0d M-Sport
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: UK

Posts: 96
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by mynextbmw View Post
yea i did, the brakes are weak or i would not post. i need to call the parts shop and see if they sell bigger ones.

checking with the folks here as i have seen a post in the past which says bmw is doing something about it as an accessory - not sure if its made it as an accessory and gone downstream to the dealerships as yet.
I would suggest it's your driving style or a problem with the car, maybe they just need bleeding through.

I use mine sometimes as a course car on gravel and tarmac rallies and believe me a 350 mile rally gives the whole thing a workout including the brakes.
__________________
X3 3.0d M-Sport
Mini Cooper S

Ranger 6 is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      09-06-2012, 09:44 AM   #22
ATX78703
Major
 
Drives: 2014 335i
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Austin, TX

Posts: 1,002
iTrader: (0)

that's weird to have bad breaking on a bmw - my 5000 lb x5 premium (not even sport trim tires) has awesome breaking! Good feel, stopping distance, and repeatability
__________________
2014 335i RWD: ZMM, ZDA, ZDH, ZPP, ZTP, 2NH, 2TB, 5DL; Z4A MPPK; AW ext / VB int

2014 ML350: P01, R33, 297, 319, 846, 864, 889, 996; LB ext / AB int
ATX78703 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:16 AM.




xbimmers
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST